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>>> Like the MIDI tracks, if a RT works for my particular song without editing, I just use it.

You can use RealTracks in a song, even if the song requires editing, or a custom hook.

ie) You can have the best of both worlds. Use RealTracks, and when you want to have a custom part, just:

(Note: This is using a DAW. RealBand is ideal for this, since it supports MIDI and Audio, and you can generate Band-in-a-Box Realtracks (audio) and MIDI parts directly inside RealBand)

1. erase that section of the RealTracks that you don't want
2. On a different track. Enter MIDI to replace the section. Choose a MIDI patch that sounds like a real instrument (as Notes Norton points out, there are lots of MIDI patches available that sound like the real thing)

Voila! You now have the RealTracks playing when you want, and have edited it, just like MIDI.

Of course you might not be matching the sound exactly. There may be a subtle timbre change! So what!

Noone is going to notice if there was Brand X of a piano with the RealTracks, and then Brand Y came in.


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I've done that Peter, but thanks for the advice! You are always ready to help and I think we all appreciate that. I know I do.

It's another application of MIDI - demonstrating another facet of that tools versatility.

Sometimes the change of voice is subtle enough, sometimes it works grandly, sometimes it doesn't work at all for me. I have a half dozen different MIDI sound modules, so I have a lot of sounds to work with, some of which are excellent, others very good, others adequate, and a few only good for limited applications.

I have a few dozen tricks up my sleeve, and I learn more and more from you and the other generous people on this forum.

And I know I'm in the majority when I say that BiaB just gets more and more useful with every update.

I wonder if you had any idea of where this program was headed when you wrote the first DOS version of BiaB.

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I have a simple Kawai MAV-8 4x8 midi patchbay, and I love it. But one thing it doesn't have is midi filtering (channel blocking.) This is nice when you're sequencing to more than one multitimbral synth and want only one channel to play. My Mav-8 sends all channels to whatever output you select. In a recording session I run some synths thru this old patcher...a great way the blend keyboards and modules as controllers or sound modules with the four "ins" for controller hardware, and eight "outs" to send mide to...or mute, whatever it calls for in your recording set up.

"on the midi front". Later modules from various manufacturers could do much more as patchbay,
but this is still a nice approach for controlling/combining and switching away, on all your hardware sounds.
sounds. This is all very confusing for a guy that'll be 79 years old on Friday


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I use a MIDI patchbay at times also.

There is a way to to filter the channels such that one synth will ignore whatever channels you designate, or in a lot of cases, the synth can be set to receive on a certain MIDI channel only. This is done "inside" each synth and requires studying each synth's manual as to how to get into those menus and change the MIDI receive channel from "All" to a certain specified channel.

Such can be a real hassle, though, to have to do such for a specific song and then have to return things back to the way they were in order to play other songs that don't need the specified channels.

And there is another thing to consider when attempting to combine voices from separate synths and mfrs as well, which is how well the different sounding patches will actually work together. Or not. Most of the quality MIDI synth mfrs spend a lot of time getting their samples to work and play well *together* such that the user is not confronted with having to be an Audio Engineer in order to be able to tweak each patch for a good mixfit. That means that the really rich sounding Patch from synth A may not sound all that rich - or possibly sound TOO rich - for the sounds from the "other" synth B.

Occasionally, though, such things can work out. I tend to save that for making actual recordings - and at that point will be working in a full fledged DAW such as RealBand rather than attempting to do it inside Band in a Box and don't use such for everyday use with Band in a Box because I'd rather spend my time practicing with the program or developing up new songfiles rather than dealing with MIDI commands as specialized as this. For everyday work I prefer using one good MIDI synth that will load into BB immediately and play the greater majority of songfiles, being able to switch from one songfile to another without hassles from the MIDI synth.


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