I've used the piano roll (mostly to check it out for some of the user related questions/posts), but (for me) it requires a steady hand with the mouse and/or multiple tries to get results (for me). Perhaps the biggest drawback to using the piano roll, is that it modifies the track data (as oppsed to applying a non-distructive effect, like automation would do). I was just trying to pose some different options for use with Realband, and perhaps initiate some wish list items. I really don't use Realband (longtime SONAR user), so I must admit I'm spoiled by the non-destructive edits/effects available there. Not knocking Realband, just trying to think of ways that users can do some of the automation or effects type functions using work-arounds. HB has however, come a long way.

Richard