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#204500 05/27/13 09:12 AM
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How can I open these in RB/PT without having to use Sonar to convert them to *.wav files?


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Find a good m4a codec and install it.

m4a is not proprietary, no licensing or anything like that, so it is essentially free.

However, I don't know if the pgmusic products are able to recognize them, and apparently not, since you can do it in Sonar on the same machine.

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I'd try renaming the w4a to m4a, or opening with Adobe or Apple app and using 'save as' to get another format. It's an old iTunes (retired) format, IIRC. As Mac mentioned, most m4a codecs will open a w4a file (or should).

simulpost! I was interrupted, so didn't see Mac's post until mine submitted.

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OOPS!!
They are *.m4a.
I guess I'll just have to bitr the bullet and open them in Sonar and save them as .wav. PIA.


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Originally Posted By: Mac
Find a good m4a codec and install it.

m4a is not proprietary, no licensing or anything like that, so it is essentially free.

However, I don't know if the pgmusic products are able to recognize them, and apparently not, since you can do it in Sonar on the same machine.

--Mac


Or install the codec.
Nero, Quicktime, iTunes, .. many free programs have the m4a codec.

M4a appears here in the dropcdown of available file types to open in RB, so it likely just needs to be installed on the system.

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Originally Posted By: Mac
Find a good m4a codec and install it.

m4a is not proprietary, no licensing or anything like that, so it is essentially free.

However, I don't know if the pgmusic products are able to recognize them, and apparently not, since you can do it in Sonar on the same machine.

--Mac


Or install the codec.
Nero, Quicktime, iTunes, .. many free programs have the m4a codec.

M4a appears here in the dropcdown of available file types to open in RB, so it likely just needs to be installed on the system.

OK I'll find a codec and install it and see how it goes.
BTW How come I can open them in Sonar but not RB?


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Sonar may have the codec imbedded in its code and available only when Sonar is running.

What you need for pgmusic products is to have the codec installed in the System because that is where these - and a lot of other - programs look for it.

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Originally Posted By: rharv
Originally Posted By: Mac
Find a good m4a codec and install it.

m4a is not proprietary, no licensing or anything like that, so it is essentially free.

However, I don't know if the pgmusic products are able to recognize them, and apparently not, since you can do it in Sonar on the same machine.

--Mac


Or install the codec.
Nero, Quicktime, iTunes, .. many free programs have the m4a codec.

M4a appears here in the dropcdown of available file types to open in RB, so it likely just needs to be installed on the system.

Odd!!
I can play them in Sonar & with Win Media Player.I DL Quicktime and now they show up in RB but the file shows a flat line. They won't play in the QT player either.


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Quicktime and the PC have been getting weirder and weirder in operation here IMO, with upgrades forcing iTunes install even if you don't use iTunes.

But don't expect to get it to work via the System by installing players and other softwares where the codec is secondary to the software.

Read what I said above carefully, then go Bing and find a standalone codec that installs to the system.

All this may not be worth it, John, there are some things I have to use one program to open and convert in order to use them in another. Just part of the job at that point.


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Quicktime and the PC have been getting weirder and weirder in operation here IMO, with upgrades forcing iTunes install even if you don't use iTunes.

But don't expect to get it to work via the System by installing players and other softwares where the codec is secondary to the software.

Read what I said above carefully, then go Bing and find a standalone codec that installs to the system.

All this may not be worth it, John, there are some things I have to use one program to open and convert in order to use them in another. Just part of the job at that point.


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I think you are right.


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Sorry to have wasted time with the installs (and probably uninstalls),
all the .m** files work here .. and I don't have QT or iTunes installed. I think Nero 9 did it if I recall correctly.
Other machines here (kids and wife) play these formats in WMP, so playbeack there may be a false positive. WMP (via Windows) has separate 'read' codecs than 'decode' codecs. MP3 is an example of that.
Standard Windows install lets WMP play all kinds of MP3 bitrates .. but if you try to record or recode using the same codec no dice. I guess it's OK one way and not the other according to their license for MP3.

May be the same for m4a.


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It is my understanding that the m4a has no licensing.

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I'll try that as it seems I can drag all the songs in and batch process. Cool!Thanks


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