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OOOoookay....
we're closing in on mid-year, which means there's a high likelihood that 2013.5 isn't too far away! Let's get a little chatter going to hype the upcoming release.
Who doesn't need more features and real tracks and superMIDI tracks? WooHoo!
I wonder which WISH LIST requests might have made it to the new release?
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That subject had to pop sooner or later, LOL! Guessing mid July to early August timeframe. 
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This one took a looong time this year, didn't it?
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Last year, .5 came out in early August. Of course, that is no guarantee for the schedule this year.
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OOOoookay....
Who doesn't need more features and real tracks and superMIDI tracks? WooHoo! Well to be very honest, I never need more of any of the new features . . . that is until I get them! Then I don't know how I got along without them. Later,
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I'm a new user - just a couple of years using both programs. These forums are an excellent resource. You Power Users have been a godsend to me - so here's a big thank you.
I too am eagerly awaiting what's next and/or more of the same - I think they've got us trained. But what I'd like to have most of all is a better, easier to use and less-confusing manual(s).
Both programs have too many features to be intuitive, so I have to use the manuals, and the manuals have often made my confusion worse because I can't find what I need to know at the time, the index often points me to the wrong page, or the information seems to presuppose a level of understanding of the program that I just don't have yet.
Perhaps the folks at PG could invest in you Power Users - that is, pay you - to create a short cut or best-practices manual, and/or a set of up-to-date video lessons that newbees like me could use and refer to.
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Have to agree with you on this SonnyRay and I'm a fairly old user still trying to figure out how to use these programs
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Have people noticed that there has not been a BIAB minor update since January?
Maybe, just maybe, this means that minds are focussed on a total rewrite, including a 64 bit version.
I thought this was coming in 2013, but I was proved wrong. I still think that BIAB cant keep chugging along with bits of the code programmed for windows 95, besides, Real Tracks totally transformed and improved the program, since then having LSB and MIDI reverb on the main interface makes no sense at all. There are so many ancient and historical 'anomalies' (I won't use the word bug) that regualr uses just seem to accept, I hope these can go too. Even so its so easy to just type in some chords load a RT style and go, which is all I usually do.
I do hope I am correct and a new rewrite is on the way, even so I will buy another minor update simply for more Real Tracks
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. . . what I'd like to have most of all is a better, easier to use and less-confusing manual(s).
Both programs have too many features to be intuitive, so I have to use the manuals, and the manuals have often made my confusion worse because I can't find what I need to know at the time, the index often points me to the wrong page, or the information seems to presuppose a level of understanding of the program that I just don't have yet. Sonny Ray, I have been pushing for an update of the manuals and online Help for years. (Have they added hyperlinks yet?) Absent that, I make it a point to always get the printed manual, and to make it mine by liberally penciling in adds and corrections to the woefully incomplete index. In an ideal world I'd have PG Music "stick to their knitting," i.e., do what they do best, which is making unique music-creation software, and turn the documentation over to third-party specialists. The ability to customize the menus by hiding the large number of features which I never use would, along with the addition of Rewire to BIAB and Real Band, round out my major requests. Everything else is taken care of by PG's attentiveness to other user wishes for great features I'd never think of. Welcome to the forum community. We look forward to seeing you grow and have fun with PG products! Richard
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I have to give a shout out to the overall quality that 2013 has been. It's been working great.
The BETA Testers deserve some credit here I'm sure. Thanks to PG team and BETA testers for all their extra attention to BAIB!
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Totally agree Richard. I have also suggested for years that PG have a sort of "beta test" based on the manual and help files. Experienced users could be assigned just one chapter, whatever they're most familiar with and rewrite it and submit it to PG HQ. PG could then post what they think is their best version of that chapter for testing and comments by everybody and so on until the whole thing gets completely rewritten. Then the final part of the process is creating a new index, keyword search function, etc.
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I have to give a shout out to the overall quality that 2013 has been. It's been working great.
The BETA Testers deserve some credit here I'm sure. Thanks to PG team and BETA testers for all their extra attention to BAIB! I'm sure I speak for all of the beta testers when I throe a heartfelt THANK YOU very much for saying that. There are far too many times, it seems, when posts rant about problems and blame even the beta testers for their problem, far fewer times when someone thanks us for sitting up late into the night testing, re-testing, suggesting, downloading, re-testing, cussing and discussing. Every single member of the group tries very hard to catch everything, sometimes something or other does slip through, but, believe me, that is not as bad a situation as it could have been and that's because of their dedication to duty during the testing. So thanks again! --Mac
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I have to give a shout out to the overall quality that 2013 has been. It's been working great.
The BETA Testers deserve some credit here I'm sure. Thanks to PG team and BETA testers for all their extra attention to BAIB! I'm sure I speak for all of the beta testers when I throe a heartfelt THANK YOU very much for saying that. There are far too many times, it seems, when posts rant about problems and blame even the beta testers for their problem, far fewer times when someone thanks us for sitting up late into the night testing, re-testing, suggesting, downloading, re-testing, cussing and discussing. Every single member of the group tries very hard to catch everything, sometimes something or other does slip through, but, believe me, that is not as bad a situation as it could have been and that's because of their dedication to duty during the testing. So thanks again! --Mac Hear, hear.
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I have to give a shout out to the overall quality that 2013 has been. It's been working great.
The BETA Testers deserve some credit here I'm sure. Thanks to PG team and BETA testers for all their extra attention to BAIB! I'm sure I speak for all of the beta testers when I throe a heartfelt THANK YOU very much for saying that. There are far too many times, it seems, when posts rant about problems and blame even the beta testers for their problem, far fewer times when someone thanks us for sitting up late into the night testing, re-testing, suggesting, downloading, re-testing, cussing and discussing. Every single member of the group tries very hard to catch everything, sometimes something or other does slip through, but, believe me, that is not as bad a situation as it could have been and that's because of their dedication to duty during the testing. So thanks again! --Mac Hear, hear. Did I just hear something? Seems like I just heard an unresolved third. Weird.
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Well, Bob, you ARE the fourth...
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I just walked in from a gig with BIAB (2013) and read this thread. Yes, many kudos to those beta testers. My version (so far) is solid as a rock. Sounds great with no problems. Sometimes I'll stop playing (guitar) and just listen to the rhythm section, thinking, boy, that sure does sound good, how do they do that? I don't use a fraction of all the features. I just want more improvements in the overall sound, the smoothness of the styles (no glitches), and whatever they have to do to make BIAB sound more like a real band, which really it is.
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There can never be enough gratitude expressed to the beta testers and to PG support staff so I will add yet another THANKS to the entire Team.
PG + forum support has litterally set the standard the few if any software vendors can match.
THANKS!
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PS: Not to diminish the above in ANY way...the Manual needs to be dumped and re-written.
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There can never be enough gratitude expressed to the beta testers and to PG support staff so I will add yet another THANKS to the entire Team. +1 !!!
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