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Great posts/advice here... Thank You!
I have a question that could well be hypothetical for me because my hearing is pretty well shot after decades of standing next to amps, drummers, monitor stacks, angry ex-wives, etc.
Regarding mixing BIAB files in a DAW:
It is my understanding that our BIAB files (.wavs) are 16 bit files...
I've also been told that it's OK to import BIAB 16 bit files into a DAW project (Reaper in my case) that's been set up for 24 bit files - - because the DAW will just ignore what's not there in the 16 bit files and the added vocals, guitars, etc to the BIAB tracks will be recorded at 24 bit quality...
Are there any good technical reasons not to do this? (if so I could easily set up my Reaper projects up as totally 16 bit projects and happily carry on...) But, I like to gather as much information as I can, whenever I can. And I wonder if this situation might cause a problem down the line - for professional mastering engineers, etc.
Just wondering if anyone else out there has a standard workflow or technically based opinions regarding exporting their BIAB 16 bit files?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want to start another 16 vs 24 bit forum war here... I'm not asking if 24 bit audio is better than 16 bit audio - I'm asking if they can live together in the same 24 bit DAW project...
According to my ears (what's left of them anyway) it works OK. (I guess one could say that sentence answers my question!)
Thanks in advance!
just an old analog dog tryin' to learn new tricks...
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Hi Silverback
FWIW-I have been doing just that for a number of years now with absolutely no problems. That is 16 bit BiaB wavs into Sonar that is set up to record in 24 bit. I am not at my music computer and I don’t remember (CRS) if there is some sort of file bit conversions going on but it does work for me. Of course I convert the finished song back to 16 bit for CDs.
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Thanks MarioD, that's comforting news... (I used to know what CRS meant - but I forgot!!)
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Hi SILVERBACK.
There's a host of contentious issues involved here, but my old mentor used to say - "If it SOUNDS good then it IS good".
In any case, if we start talking about re-sampling and dithering, my old pal rharv gets a headache!
I'd go with what Mario said.
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One of my Music Creator user manuals (could be the manual for MC2,3 or 5) indicated that files are automatically converted during importation to match the user selected bit depth setting.
16 bit files have eight zeros (00000000) appended to each sample when 24 bit operation is set while the eight least significant digits are truncated (removed) from each 24 bit sample if 16 bit operation is selected.
Some DAWs have a setting that disables conversion or allows the user to convert after a file is imported.
Last edited by JimFogle; 07/09/13 02:58 PM. Reason: Thought Clarification
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Thanks you for this post, food for thought on my mixing journey. 
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Revisiting Steve's mixing thread... (go to the beginning)
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