Yes I've played with the mixer Noel. The applications seem closely tied to the main mixer volume output. Changing the application volume will change the main mixer as well. I can never exceed the volume of the main but I can make the application volume lower than the main. I want to go the other way. Esp. biab. Curiously, the biab application slider disappears from the mixer occasionaly. Even though biab is running there is no slider for it in the mixer. Seems to happen during and after I play back a song.

For testing, I have used some material that I recorded with powertracks on another pc as well as some of the biab demo files. I have also generated tracks to see how that works out, but in each case the volume output of biab is low. Realband is less of a problem than biab. I've been using the coyotewt as a sound source for now. I can boost that by 6db in its own context menu and that helps some.

I exported some material from biab to a wav file. The wav file seems to be about 5 times louder ( ie normal) but that is a very subjective opinion.

I am using an m-track interface. I have been trying to check the sound levels with just the laptop speakers, however I have hooked up some powered speakers to the m-audio device and gone out that way. I can get volume doing this but biab is still not outputting the volume of other software. I am playing around with the a couple of asio drivers to see how that plays out but it seems that may not be the source of the problem.

I guess I am thinking that the volume of the same material being output from different software sources should be at the same volume levels. Perhaps I'm wrong of assuming that this should be the case.

I'm am talking to pg support on this and getting some suggestions from them. While some of them can boost the volume out ( ie use peaklimit and boost things there) I don't think that I should have to be doing this. I can also insert a compressor to make things louder, but dont think I should have to do that either.

I'm sure this is probably something simple!! Ha.
Thanks for your replies!
Terry