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So, in answer to the question..."Can I obtain an enforceable copyright in a melody generated by BIAB?"...the answer is "MAYBE and MAYBE NOT." Just like any melody you come up with in your head. There is always the possibility that someone got there first. Sometimes those melodies come unconsciously from something we have heard before. So, MAYBE and MAYBE NOT. However, a lot will depend on the chord structure you choose for your song. It's a greater possibility that you might end up with "similar" or "close enough" melodies by different people using the same chord progression. Much more unlikely, however, with different chord progressions.
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You can obtain a copyright on any work, matter of fact under current US law, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is completed by the author. There is, however, copyright *REGISTRATION* which is what I think you are trying to refer to. Registering your work with the US copyright office costs about 40 dollars per work, or you can go for the less expensive "compilation" copyright, which for the one price will cover an entire compilation of songs, such as a CD. However, there are caveats as to your protection with the cheaper method. The copyright office does not do searches to see if your work is a copy of someone else's. But do not take my word for it either. You should visit the source, the US government copyright office webpage and at least read the FAQs there, which answer a lot if not all questions. http://www.copyright.gov/ Rumors, misinformation and disinformation are rampant on this subject. If you are serious, get your information only from the source. --Mac
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You can obtain a copyright on any work, matter of fact under current US law, a work is copyrighted as soon as it is completed by the author. There is, however, copyright *REGISTRATION* which is what I think you are trying to refer to. Registering your work with the US copyright office costs about 40 dollars per work, or you can go for the less expensive "compilation" copyright, which for the one price will cover an entire compilation of songs, such as a CD. However, there are caveats as to your protection with the cheaper method. The copyright office does not do searches to see if your work is a copy of someone else's. But do not take my word for it either. You should visit the source, the US government copyright office webpage and at least read the FAQs there, which answer a lot if not all questions. http://www.copyright.gov/ Rumors, misinformation and disinformation are rampant on this subject. If you are serious, get your information only from the source. --Mac A couple of refinements. No work is invested with a copyright until it is reduced to a physical form from which it can be discerned (tape, CD, sheet music etc.) So, you can't just whistle a tune...or play it on a musical instrument and obtain a copyright even if you created it in front of a thousand witnesses. It is true that the Copyright Office does not rule on the originality of a song submitted to it and therefore, one can register a work that is an exact copy of Hotel California. But A) such a copyright would be INVALID and B) it would actually violate copyright law to copy the song for purposes of registration. Best, Jim
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Glad we got past the squabble about semantics! I've found the melody generation very helpful as a starting point when writing a song. I let band-in-a-box generate lots of melodies until I find one that I can relate to, then I use a phrase or two to inspire me. I almost always change most of the melody, and the chord sequence here and there.
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I understad that I own the right to a song that I create using BIAB, but I need documentation. I have already seen Sales FAQ #22, but I need something a little more concrete for YouTube monetization. They are specifically requesting that I reference this permission in the software's License Agreement. Can someone point me to a page in the Owner's Manual, or some other authoritative source besides the FAQ? Thanks, John
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There's form posts from staff and the owner.
There's also the fact that the license file doesn't claim any rights to any derived works.
There are BiaB files all over youtube now, why the worry?
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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I'll try again... I keep getting this from YouTube: "Hi, To assist us in processing your submission for monetization, we would like for you to provide us with more information regarding the license agreement for the audio (including background music) contained in your video. Specifically, we need for you to confirm that you have been cleared to use the aforementioned material for commercial purposes. You may e-mail us this information as an attachment or provide us with a direct link to the terms. If you would like to monetize videos that contain audio from or created from software, please refer to our Monetization FAQs at http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=2490089.Sincerely, The YouTube Team"
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Did you receive this reply after citing BIAB's Sales FAQ #22? The YouTube link even mentions FAQs as a possible source. I would like to know precisely what YouTube means by "royalty-free software". No software company can certify that a song you make does not infringe copyright. Early posts in this thread, some mine, describe some of the reasons for that. There is another FAQ here that relates to the previous point: http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq28.htm#29But to answer your first question, I am not aware of anywhere else on the PG Music site or license that says anything more clear that those two FAQ entries.
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Yes -- I even provided a link to the FAQ.
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I found some pages in the manual that may be applicable. However, at 14M, it is too large for me to attach in my email to YouTube support. Is there an online manual that I can link to?
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Just send them the appropriate parts.
or ..
Create a Dropbox account*
Upload the file
Send them a link to the file
Temp free storage is available.
*not endorsing Dropbox, it's just a familiar free service. There are many others like Google Docs, etc
/not sure how PGMusic feels about sharing their manual, but these services can allow the user to only share it with a suppled link, so it's not really public.
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I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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I would register my works with the us copyright office.
When asked, I'd show 'em my copyright.
--Mac
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