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I am going to try one of the suction cup types and see how it works. Worst case I lose 12 bucks. Best case it works. My guess is that you will get wildly different results with this pup on the Dobro, simply because it's designed not to vibrate in just about everywhere except for the spider/cone. Can't put it on the cone directly as it will mass-load the cone to death - literally. Sides of the dobro body should be relatively dead as well from a vibration standpoint. You are going to be playing this live? If not, then mic the thing as pointed out above. SM57 should be fine, I would think.
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Eddie, Here's my friend Mike Auldridge stealing an extra Dobro break on "Out Among The Stars" with The Seldom Scene. http://youtu.be/JaojfdxYsK4He's getting great sound out of his Dobro with a Shure SM57 pointing at the approximate center of the spider and about 6 inches away. The vox mics are SM58s. Mike could afford any professional mic made yet he's using the SM57. Agreed that Dobro is cutting through the mix loud and clear. Reminds me I need to invest in a gooseneck mount to throw in the mic gig bag. So much easier to get a specific position for the mic than boom stands for something like this. Don, is that you leading?
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My friendship with Mike dates back to the 70s when we set oot to co-design the Mike Auldridge line of resonator guitars. He specified the design specifications and I would sub-contract the manufacturing off-shore though Kiso Suzuki, a major violin maker in Japan. The project was still born because the Japanese could not produce a spider/cone combination that met Mike's ear.
Mike won countless awards for his fantastic playing. His last work was as a QC for Beard Guitars and they make and sell the Mike Audridge Model in both 6 and 8 string.
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To give a wee glimpse into Mike's loving and generous personality, when I told him that Howard Tate (from these forums) was near death from cancer, Mike sent Howard a special Dobro piece that Howard treasured up to his death. What could be a more beautiful gift. Unfortunately, Mike died on December 29th, 2012 of the same loath disease, prostate cancer.
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My guess is that you will get wildly different results with this pup on the Dobro, simply because it's designed not to vibrate in just about everywhere except for the spider/cone. Can't put it on the cone directly as it will mass-load the cone to death - literally. Sides of the dobro body should be relatively dead as well from a vibration standpoint.
Well a crazy experimenter like me would try cone attachment anyway. The amount of mass loading might be something that I could live with in order to amplify the thing, after all we're not talking a Dobro King here, we are talking the ability to do one Intro for one song. EQ in the amp would likely make up any difference there. And if I couldn't easily place it on the cone, then I'd try something like clamping one to the bridge, or even perhaps placing a sheet of that piezo plastic between bridge and cone somewhere. Heck, I'm crazy enough to try putting a miniature electret condenser element inside the Dobro, pointing at the cone. Attachment? A blob of RTV... --Mac
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I am going to try one of the suction cup types and see how it works. Worst case I lose 12 bucks. Best case it works. to me this sounds like the logical thing to try first. Very little monetary risk and reasonable potential to meet your needs. Please let us know how it works! ------update------ these can be found on ebay for even less
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Heck, I'm crazy enough to try putting a miniature electret condenser element inside the Dobro, pointing at the cone. Attachment? A blob of RTV... Mac, I did exactly that with my flattop, a Japanese Hummingbird copy. If memory serves, I think a Dobro has a sound post dead center of the cone. I suspect that would be the ideal place to mic the Dobie. I used the Panasonic WM063T electret mic element and hot-glued it in place. BTW, that's the same element that Greg Mackie used in his Spectrum Analyzer. (How would I know that?)
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My guess is that you will get wildly different results with this pup on the Dobro, simply because it's designed not to vibrate in just about everywhere except for the spider/cone. Can't put it on the cone directly as it will mass-load the cone to death - literally. Sides of the dobro body should be relatively dead as well from a vibration standpoint.
Well a crazy experimenter like me would try cone attachment anyway. The amount of mass loading might be something that I could live with in order to amplify the thing, after all we're not talking a Dobro King here, we are talking the ability to do one Intro for one song. EQ in the amp would likely make up any difference there. And if I couldn't easily place it on the cone, then I'd try something like clamping one to the bridge, or even perhaps placing a sheet of that piezo plastic between bridge and cone somewhere. Heck, I'm crazy enough to try putting a miniature electret condenser element inside the Dobro, pointing at the cone. Attachment? A blob of RTV... --Mac Mac, I have done this on my Larrivée acoustic with one of those AT 'choir' mics that also came with a spring clip for lavalier-type use. My issue was that at the time I had no way to roll-off the lows that were overwhelming the mic in the sound-hole. Those little ATs were some of the most versatile mics (they still make many flavors of them) mainly because of the various mounts that came with them (spring-wire for hanging over a choir, plastic tube with threaded mount for use on a stand, and the lavalier clip for all kinds of sneaky uses! My concern on mounting it right on the cone is that the mass is likely as much or more than the cone itself - but yes - experimentation would be fun! Eddie, as I think about the past use of the little AT condensers, if you have one of those (not unlike this: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Pro45 ) that also has a spring clip to use as a lavalier, there are plenty of places on a Dobro to clip one of these. You will likely need to significantly roll off the low end - I would do this as early in the analog signal chain as possible. Anyways, there are a few manufacturers of these types of mics, most of them terminate in a belt-pack connector rather than XLR.
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Every professional resonator guitarist I have ever played with used a Carl McIntyre Pickup.
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