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Hi All, I have created a movie of exactly what is happening. You can watch it here. (full screen mode looks best) www.danthesaxman.com/biab-jabb-error.wmvI also uploaded the BIAB file here (although this phenomenon happens on any biab I have with a melody in it). I also uploaded my JABB Krontakt multi that I used in this video. http://danking.weebly.comCan anyone else replicate this problem? Dan
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Sorry Dan, I should have thought of this first thing. The JABB brass & reeds require cc#1 values for volume
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Mike,
Where do I set JABB to that setting?
Can you explain what cc#1 is?
Thanks
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Mike,
When I opened it up and real band I noticed the "Mod Wheel" Setting was at 90. I looked in the JABB manual and it said mod wheel was cc#1 (from your post above). When I open up the same saved JABB file in BIAB it was defaulted to 0. I then turned it to 90, and voila, I hear it now. I wonder if the bug in BIAB is that it starts as 0 for mod wheel when Real band defaults mod wheel at 90 for the same exact profile loaded?
Anyway now I will start messing with the harmonies, and assigned different instruments to the harmonies.
In your experience what is the best way to change the expressions (creshendo's etc) Do you do it after you recorded the melody in the melody editor in biab, or do you try to create that while recording the melody? If the latter, what means do you use to create the creshendo's?
DAn
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The problem I have now is when I load in any wind or brass instrument it shows the mod wheel at 90. But as soon as I hit play on BIAB, the modwheel goes to 0, and I have to manually turn it up evey time. Any ideas how to keep it at 90 like real band does?
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Quote:
The problem I have now is when I load in any wind or brass instrument it shows the mod wheel at 90. But as soon as I hit play on BIAB, the modwheel goes to 0, and I have to manually turn it up evey time. Any ideas how to keep it at 90 like real band does?
You can insert Controller Data in each BIAB song using the PianoRoll view.
Rewind the scroll to the very beginning of the song, open the PianoRoll view, make sure the right track is selected over at LH top (M) and then use the dropdown at top R to select Control. Another dropdown should appear to the right of that, Controller 1 is the Mod Wheel.
Then draw in the Controller value desired in the lower window of the PianoRoll View.
It should look like a flat straight line, likely at the 90 point, all the way through the song.
Then Save with Patches and Harmony.
The song should now always send that CC1 of 90 whenever loaded and/or whenever you hit Play.
Good idea to save these songs in a seperate folder using SaveAs and don't overwrite the originals in case the day comes when you want to use those songs with an ordinary GM MIDI synth.
--Mac
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Dan, you can see in the midi monitor that BB zeros cc#1 upon hitting play and upon stopping. Mac has outlined a viable countermeasure. But re. Mike's comment: Quote:
Sorry Dan, I should have thought of this first thing. The JABB brass & reeds require cc#1 values for volume
Mike, it's been a long while since I've looked at your scripts or used JABB. Weren't the scripts intended to start the mod wheel at some mid-range value? -Ron
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Quote:
Mike,
In your experience what is the best way to change the expressions (creshendo's etc) Do you do it after you recorded the melody in the melody editor in biab, or do you try to create that while recording the melody? If the latter, what means do you use to create the creshendo's?
DAn
Dan,
The best results will be obtained varying the cc#1 (modwheel) data. This can be recorded or drawn in the piano roll view as Mac pointed out. Also portamento (cc#20) and overlapped notes in combination with cc#64 are also important controllers for realism. The JABB documentation explains these and other midi parameters the instruments respond to. Or as Ron indicated the Phrase Modeled Performance Multi will automate the generation of all the JABB midi parameters. Mikes K2 Scripts
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