In reading through the various posts, it occurred to me that most endeavors work on a point system, and it doesn't matter how you get the points as long as you get enough of them.

Some people get most of their points on the strength of their playing, and they use vocal processors to add points to their weak singing

Some people are killer vocalists, and they add points to the overall sound by using trax.

Some people are "pretty good" in their presentation, but they gain points thru audience participation.

And yes, some people are just good at everything... but they won't be playing at the places I'm playing, so I'm not really competing against them. Naturally, I'll try to do the best I can in each of those arenas, but my main goal is to keep from giving up because of my deficiencies. I'd rather find ways to compensate for my weaknesses in ways that don't undermine the overall performance by subtracting too many suck points.

heh. suck points. I'll have to remember that one, it made me laugh for a second.