|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833 |
First, big thanks to Pat Marr for alerting me to a special price on Garritan Personal Orchestra yesterday! I bought it and have been playing with it in Reaper and now want to see what is possible in BIAB.
But before I spend any more time trying to get it to do things...I kinda need to know what it can do. So my first question is, can BIAB automatically generate an accompaniment track using GPO as its source much like it does for RealTracks and MIDI SuperTracks? Or, will I always have to enter my music using an external keyboard or my PC?
And my second question is should I switch to RealBand for using GPO? That seems to be what PG recommends.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Last edited by JohnJohnJohn; 09/05/13 01:55 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651 |
I have GPO and have used it in Sonar as the source synth for midi tracks. So, in BB, for example, you have a string track that may be midi, you could use GPO to provide a cello or a violin.
I'm not sure how you might do this in BB but in Real Band I think it would be a simple matter to assign the midi to GPO..... as one would do in Sonar. I have never used RB as a DAW so I'm not 100% sure exactly what the process is...... I'm guessing similar to Sonar. Output midi track to GPO synth track and select the sample in GPO to play.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 09/05/13 05:49 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,991
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,991 |
The only problem with using GPO with BiaB is the mod wheel. GPO interprets the mod wheel level as a volume control, not as modulation (effectively vibrato).
GPO does this because it's a controller that's available on many keyboards, so it makes it easy to control that aspect.
Only BiaB doesn't know that GPO uses the modulation controller differently. At the beginning of playback, BiaB (sensibly) sets the mod control wheel to zero. And if you use the humanize playback option, BiaB will send mod wheel events to the track to add vibrato to instruments if appropriate.
Unfortunately, it's not appropriate with GPO.
On some instruments (such as the piano), it has no effect. On others (such as the flute or strings) setting the mod wheel to zero set the volume of the instrument to zero.
There's no setting in GPO to ignore mod wheel events, and no setting in BiaB to not send mod wheel events at the start of the track. (You can tell it not to send mod wheel events as part of the humanize playback).
To get around this, you can manually insert CC events at the beginning of the tracks to set the mod wheel yourself. It's a bit of a pain, but it works. I can't recall if you need to do this each time you regenerate the MIDI track, though.
That's one of the reasons I create the tracks in BiaB and export them to a DAW. The main problem with that approach is that you can't import back into BiaB after you've fiddled with stuff. That's probably why using RB is suggested.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833 |
thanks Guitarhacker and dcuny!
sounds like I may have a reason now to learn RealBand!
but because I am absolutely and totally ignorant about MIDI I am still wondering if RealBand will generate parts for me (like it does with RealTracks and MIDI Supertracks) using GPO? or will I need to create those parts (using a keyboard or manually in the software) and then apply an instrument from GPO to it?
I apologize if my question makes no sense...I really know nothing in this area!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651 |
I don't think RB will generate a part for you in midi using GPO or any synth as it's output.
I think that is reserved for the samples and real tracks.
I might be wrong, but I've not seen that ability in it...yet.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
If you go to RB help file > Content > render(or)rendering you will get a guide on how to do this.
I do my rendering to wav withe VSTi's inside BIAB, but RB also does it.
BTW, once you've done this you'll never be happy the other way.....
Last edited by seeker; 09/05/13 02:00 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833 |
thanks seeker...I read that but it seems to be more about rendering an existing track to audio. what I'm puzzled about is how to create the MIDI track in the first place!
I'll try and explain further but I have to apologize in advance because 1) I know nothing about MIDI and 2) I can only use BIAB as a reference as I have not yet used RealBand.
So, here is something I can do now with BIAB,
1) start a new song
2) mute all tracks except one
3) on the unmuted track select MIDI SuperTrack and select 2060:Strings
4) enter my chords
5) press GenPlay and BIAB generates a nice string accompaniment that follows my chords
Is there any way to do something similar using GPO4 instead of the MIDI SuperTrack?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 92
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 92 |
Realband will definitely generate midi styles and super midi tracks using vst's, such as gpo, for playback. I'm not at my computer right now, but, right click on a track in Realband and toward the bottom of the list you will see generate midi solo, style, super midi. When you click on your selection, a choice list will open just like in B&B. Also, the first 8 tracks of realband can work just like B&B. This forum has helped many, many people come to grips with midi...Bobby
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
The quick answer to your question is that both Real Band and BIAB can generate MIDI parts just like they generate REAL TRACKS. In BIAB some of the styles are RT styles, and some are MIDI styles. The MIDI styles generate MIDI tracks, and a MIDI track can be played thru any soft synth (Which is what GPO is) That's step 1, knowing what is possible Step 2 is knowing how to do it. here's a link to the tutorial: http://www.pgmusic.com/tutorial_garritan.htm
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833 |
I went through the tutorial using RealBand but was never able to get anything generated by RB. I could "play" using the virtual keyboard and hear the GPO4 sounds but could not figure how to get RB to generate accompaniment using GPO.
I'll try it again later starting from scratch! Thanks so much for your help and again I apologize for my ignorance as the whole MIDI and RB thing is completely new to me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833 |
Ok. think I'm making a little progress! In RealBand I was able to generate a melody made up of GPO sounds!!  And, I poped open that Piano Roll window and started moving notes around and...indeed there is a whole 'nother game to be learned here!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651 |
Apparently there is a whole lot of things I am missing or just unaware of in BB/RB as evidenced by reading this post....and some others.
Now the question is..... do I have the time and desire to dig in and learn how these aspects of the program work in order to incorporate this into my musical production?
Hummmmmmmmmmmmm...................
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
Apparently there is a whole lot of things I am missing or just unaware of in BB/RB as evidenced by reading this post....and some others. once a user gets past the low hanging fruit in the PGMusic programs (and there's a LOT of that!) it becomes evident that the product is an iceberg of potential, and much of it lies outside the realm of first glance. Now the question is..... do I have the time and desire to dig in and learn how these aspects of the program work in order to incorporate this into my musical production?
Hummmmmmmmmmmmm................... The good news is that it's a cohesive system, and the stuff you don't use yet probably works just like the stuff you already use... so there may be far less of a learning curve than you think. Also, let's face it: musicians love new gear. We buy it because it adds new performing or recording possibilities. This thread is an example of how a new soft synth can open doors of possibility. But a cheaper way to add new possibilities is to fully exploit the software you already own. Based on your posts, Herb, I'd say you are a lifetime learner. You aren't content to stay in one place, you are a continuous improver. Once you establish the fact that you're always learning, It boils down to the question of what you will learn TODAY. From a learning perspective, BIAB/RB are like the Readers Digest. You don't have to read a whole book, just read a condensed version. Pick one feature and mess with it. By playing you absorb knowledge without feeling like you invested time at all.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,651 |
Good points......and yes, I have known pretty much since I first purchased the very first Band in a Box and started using it that there was so much more to this program than I would ever use on a daily basis.
The problem is..... finding the time...and yeah I know..... I have to MAKE the time.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
to generate a MIDI track in Real Band:
1) pick a MIDI style in the style picker and make it the active style
2) Each track can be either a MIDI track or an AUDIO track... in order to generate MIDI, it obviously needs to be a MIDI track. In the LEFT pane of the track, Right click BELOW the track title (not ON it) and a menu appears. From this menu:
____a) make it a MIDI track
____b) assign a MIDI channel
____c) assign a specific VSTi/Dxi soft synth for the track
____d) use the patch select dialog to pick the patch
3) right click in the RIGHT pane of the track (where the music WAV appears in an audio track) and scroll down the pop-up menu until you find an option that says GENERATE MIDI
4) another pop-up menu will appear asking if you want to generate the BASS, DRUMS, PIANO, GUITAR or STRINGS track from that style. (Pick one)
once you pick the instrument you want to generate, RB will create the track from that style the same as it would if you generated a song in BIAB using that same style.
This is basically the same procedure used to generate:
- Real Tracks
- LOOPS
- MIDI SUpertracks (except the MIDI supertracks let you pick from a list, more like the way you pick a real track. Generating a non-supertrack MIDI track always uses the current style.)
However, you can change styles over and over again, generating new MIDI tracks each time. Given the number of MIDI styles (over 1,000!) with multiple instruments in each style, this feature makes ALL of the instruments in all of the styles available to RB!!
Very Powerful!
on my style picker there are 3,349 styles shown. Each style has 5 instruments
3,349 * 5 = 16,745 unique tracks that could be generated in RB
plus, all of those track have multiple generation possibilities. Assuming only 10 generation possibilities per track (which I'm sure is wayyy low), now we're looking at...
over 160,000 unique track generations!!
With more being added at every new version! If I never bought another piece of gear or software, what I already have could keep me busy for the rest of my life.
(But I'll probably buy more anyway.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
I forgot to mention that if you also generate the REAL CHART along with a REAL TRACK, you can send the MIDI data from the real chart to a soft synth. This is useful for adding pads to a guitar part.
Or, you can open the real chart in piano roll and move the notes around to create a MIDI harmony for the audio real track
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
Ok. think I'm making a little progress! In RealBand I was able to generate a melody made up of GPO sounds!! And, I poped open that Piano Roll window and started moving notes around and...indeed there is a whole 'nother game to be learned here! welcome to the world of MIDI, John! You are embarking on a path that will dramatically increase the possibilities in your musical bag of tricks! This forum has some of the smartest MIDI gurus I've encountered. SOMEBODY here will know the answer to any MIDI related question you can think up. You're in the right place to start learning about what MIDI can do. And its a very deep well.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,833 |
THANK YOU SO MUCH PAT!!!!!! (but of course, I have loads of questions!!!)
1) pick a MIDI style in the style picker and make it the active style
How do I know what style to pick? What effect does this choice have on my final track? It seems to not matter what I pick as ultimately the track will be using the VSTi instrument sound anyway?
____c) assign a specific VSTi/Dxi soft synth for the track
This makes sense...now I am picking something from GPO
____d) use the patch select dialog to pick the patch
But what does this do? I already picked my sound so what am I doing here and what effect will it have on my final track?
3) right click in the RIGHT pane of the track (where the music WAV appears in an audio track) and scroll down the pop-up menu until you find an option that says GENERATE MIDI
I do not see that option...I see Generate MIDI Track with options to choose the Bass, Drums, Piano, etc. and when I select that it says "Can't generate on top of an existing BB MIDI track"
I tried Generate MIDI Solo and that worked but again I am puzzled as to why I am once again needing to choose from a list of 360 styles and it does not seem to matter what I choose for the final track sound!
I did get some tracks to generate but still do not understand why I need to pick all of those various styles when I have a specific VSTi instrument in mind.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
THANK YOU SO MUCH PAT!!!!!! (but of course, I have loads of questions!!!)
1) pick a MIDI style in the style picker and make it the active style
How do I know what style to pick? What effect does this choice have on my final track? It seems to not matter what I pick as ultimately the track will be using the VSTi instrument sound anyway? It helps if you are familiar with the styles, because there's no way to demo the sound before you apply it to your song. (Wishlist item!) You can change the sound of the track with one of the GPO patches, but each of the midi styles generates its own distinct patterns. In other words, in a country style the generated notes will be different than in a track generated from a rock style or jazz style. If you go to BIAB and apply a bunch of different styles to the same chords, you'll see what I mean. In fact, BIAB may be the best way to demo the styles to see which ones you want to add to your project
____c) assign a specific VSTi/Dxi soft synth for the track
This makes sense...now I am picking something from GPO
at that step, you will be picking from a list of soft synths, and in this case you'd pick the ARIA player because that's what drives the GPO sounds
____d) use the patch select dialog to pick the patch
But what does this do? I already picked my sound so what am I doing here and what effect will it have on my final track?
good point. If you had picked a general MIDI soft synth such as coyote forte, you could pick the patch used in the current track as described here. But ARIA has its own way of assigning patches to a track... so in your case you wouldn't need to use the right click menu to pick the patch
3) right click in the RIGHT pane of the track (where the music WAV appears in an audio track) and scroll down the pop-up menu until you find an option that says GENERATE MIDI
I do not see that option...I see Generate MIDI Track with options to choose the Bass, Drums, Piano, etc.
that's the right menu item...
and when I select that it says "Can't generate on top of an existing BB MIDI track"
scroll down until the tracks change color and pick one of those tracks. The first few tracks are BB tracks and you can't generate MIDI on a track that has data or is reserved for BB
I tried Generate MIDI Solo and that worked but again I am puzzled as to why I am once again needing to choose from a list of 360 styles and it does not seem to matter what I choose for the final track sound!
OK, start by asking yourself what genre your song will be in. If you're writing a country song and you need to add a piano track, then pick a country style and generate a midi track from the piano part
I did get some tracks to generate but still do not understand why I need to pick all of those various styles when I have a specific VSTi instrument in mind.
OK, lets say you want to add some of those excellent GPO strings to your song. Look thru the style picker for a style that would probably contain a string section. Classical and ballad styles typically have strings. Pick one of those styles and when you "generate midi track" pick STRINGS. RB will generate a track that will probably sound good with a GPO strings patch applied. There is no rule for picking the right style to get the sound you want... you have to experiment and listen to a lot of the midi styles. You may want to write down the name of styles that have parts you like
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,106 |
Actually, here's what I would do if I were you:
1) start your project in BIAB. Demo many styles against your chords, and when you find a style you like save the project
2) open the same saved project in RealBand. Assign the MIDI tracks to GPO
by starting in BIAB you get the benefit of working with styles that contain tracks that work together very well. You don't have to search for something that works. You know right away what the song will sound like.
But when you open it in RB and assign the MIDI to GPO, it will sound a lot better than it did when you demoed it using coyote wavetable soft synth in BIAB
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,204
Posts789,600
Members39,838
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean