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I want to run BIAB and record audio from my Roland JV-1010 into either RealBand or Nuendo. Having opened both, BIAB, which has worked fine all morning, now reports that "MIDI drivers are in use by another program" and gives me no output to my Roland. No, they're not. I changed them in Nuendo and closed and restarted Nuendo and BIAB. Even changing them to "None" makes no difference. The FAQs do not address this and the forum archive only goes back a few weeks.
I have yet to record AUDIO from the Roland in either RealBand or Nuendo. (I was able to record a few minutes of a self-produced CD in Nuendo a few nights ago; not sure it's repeatable.) Doesn't matter, they both crash after a few minutes anyway. I got innumerable error messages--and could not exit the selection dialogues--when I tried to change the ASIO settings in RB. Had to use Task Manager to quite, and BIAB crashed when I did.
I see that the Creative ASIO drivers aren't the way to go. Fine, I'll use the DirectX Full Duplex, even though it has greater latency. If I use the KVR ASIO drivers I lose the use of the front-panel volume control on my Audigy soundcard, an important feature. I am close to chucking the thing, though.
I have a plan B in the form of a TASCAM US-224 MIDI/audio I/O and control surface. I've used it before and it worked well for what I was doing at the time. It's just that the Audigy has three pairs of analog inputs, optical, SPDIF, and FireWire. I was hoping to get some use out of some of that.
Be really cool if I could get the control surface working with Nuendo, but that hasn't happened yet, either. My copy of Cubase VST which came with it recognizes it fine, I just can't do anything useful with the program. I also have a $1500 piece of software intended to do the job a little better than a bit of bundled freeware.
Eventually much of what I create in BIAB is intended to be ported into Reason, which in turn will be ReWired to Nuendo. I did it once, but haven't been able to repeat it since. Neither manual says anything about ReWire. The story per the Prophead website is, boot up the host, then Reason, and you're there. NOT. Well, once.
I have AND READ the manuals for every piece of hard- and software I have (less RealBand, story posted elsewhere; trying to make it work from online help is, for me, an exercise in futility). I'm going to refill the two ink cartridges I wasted last night trying to print my own and try again.
I can have fun with any ONE program, and do, but I'm trying to get some work done here. Ain't happening.
Richard
P.S.: HEY, PG: GIVE US THE MANUAL FOR RealBand, OKAY?! (OTOH, if they think it's not ready for release, perhaps they could share with us the deficiences in the one we're using? Hmmm?)
"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
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I pulled the Soundblaster Audigy out of the chain, patched in the TASCAM, reset BIAB to defaults and selected the TASCAM. I have sound from BIAB now. Let's see what happens.
R.
"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
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*ASIO is a "one man dog".
Which means that if you are trying to use two sound recording programs simultaneously, you likely can't set both to use ASIO sound drivers at the same time. Although once in a while I've seen it work, most of the time it balks.
So set BB to use the MME sound drivers, since it is only playing back at the time and set the recording program to use ASIO.
OR -- export the BB song as standard MIDI file plus any realtracks separately, then open the MIDI file in Nuendo and import the audio tracks in one at a time and there ya go, make them all into audio mixdown with only Nuendo open.
--Mac
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It's problems like these which, for a non-techie like me, have kept me away from computer-based recording. Don't know about others, but I'm sticking with stand alone digital recorders. Maybe some limitations, but far less hassles. Can get results quickly with predictability. Guess its a comfort thing.
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Those stand alones are very nice for basic recording, they usually work great with very little hassle. Problem is there are so many things they can not do, and the software available today makes it all worth it.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
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Hey Ryzard, sorry to hear that you're having troubles, but so far you did step number one right, work with the audio/midi interface that works... The audigy might have all these supposed bells and whistles, but if it doesn't work with your system, it's useless... AS far as Nuendo identifying your control surface, that is not an uncommon problem with softwares... My brother has an M-Audio 88 key controller, and he can't get his software to identify it either... I forget what he uses... So, the good news is that at least you're getting audio...
But that's a good game plan though, do your tracks from band in a box, and them import the midi and audio to reason and rewire with nuendo... Have you gone on the Nuendo site and see what they say about rewiring with Reason?? I have Sonar and I can tell you that even though I can get re-wire capabilities with it, it doesn't always work the way it's supposed to, and a lot of people that use Reason have complained about it... But i imagine you're going to use Nuendo to do vocals and things of that nature... So, maybe some of the problems that people are having won't affect you much, (they can only get 1 sound working) as long as you get it to synch with Reason... So, these rewire problems may be across the board with some apps...
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