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"For All We Know" is a classic of the Great American Songbook, music by J. Fred Coots and lyrics by Sam M. Lewis (1934). It never ceases to amaze that something so profound could have been written that long ago. It deals with epistemology and cognitive closure. The first term is that branch of philosophy that deals with knowledge - what does it mean to say that you know something, for example, that there will be a tomorrow (think of a large object colliding with the sun)? In the lyrics you find, "Tomorrow was made for some, tomorrow may never come." The second term, cognitive closure, refers to things that are beyond and permanently out of reach of human knowledge, as expressed by, "We come, we go, like ripples on a stream." "Here today, gone today" as I like to say. And where to from there? Cognitive closure. Finally, remember that, "This may only be a dream." How do you know it isn't? FOR ALL WE KNOW https://soundcloud.com/aleckrand/for-all-we-knowAleck Rand: vocal, guitar, keyboard RT artists: Neil Swainson, bass; Terry Clarke, drums; Eric Marienthal, alto sax.
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Really nice guitar playing Aleck, very cool. And soulfully delivered lyrics. (NB: we're not supposed to post non-originals here: "The songs must be originals, no copyrighted or "cover" songs. You must have all of the rights to the songs.") 
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Hi Dean,
great vocals and guitar as always.
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Thank your favorable comments Skyline. Actually, I do have all the rights to perform this song. Please see my signature below, i.e., my ASCAP license to stream my own versions of any of the 8.5 million tunes whose copyrights this organization manages. I pay a substantial yearly fee to maintain this license. For complete information: http://www.uri.edu/artsci/math/clark/http://www.uri.edu/artsci/math/clark/reviews https://www.ascap.com/mylicense/
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It never ceases to amaze that something so profound could have been written that long ago. It deals with epistemology and cognitive closure.
"That long ago," - is just a flash in the pan compared to the when and where of the definition. Aristotle wrote of the epitemology, matter of fact he coined the term, "self-evident truth" to describe the method of reduction that can only go back as far as a self evident truth and no further. He also showed that this was the only way to proof a certain statement or idea and that if it did not reduce to the self evident truth, the statement was very likely to be false. These things were taught to high school students at one time, the songwriters of the 30s were very familiar with such concepts. Today, one has to be a Philosophy major at university to even hear of them, much less study same, and the Philosophy department's viewpoint has become rather myopic IMO as well. Nice tune, I agree. --Mac
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Nice job . . . got that Leonard Cohen vibe in this one.
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Nice old jazz styling and I like your playing.
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Hi, Dean !
I liked this tune and
especially your passionate
vocals !! :))
Good to hear that your voice
is in shape again !:)))
Cheers
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MAC!! You continue to surprise me.
You're right on many counts: It took about 2000 years and the assault of
skepticism (everything can be doubted, there is no knowledge; how do you know that you're not in The Matrix, lying in a nutrient filled bath with a virtual reality being pumped into your brain?)
Skepticism brought forth Descartes to ask, "Is there anything I cannot doubt." His answer was "when I am doubting something, I know that I'm doubting it." So, there is at least one thing Descartes thought could be know for certain. Actually, his conclusion was too strong because he inserts the presence of an "I" - a self. What he was entitled to know was that something was doubting.
Here's a little thought experiment for everyone to consider:
You forgot your watch at home and you're walking past an atomic clock that indicates it is exactly 2 o'clock. In fact, at that moment it is 2 o'clock, exactly. There are no tricks in this experiment. Now, do you know that it's two o'clock?
And, oh yeah, it is a nice tune. Thanks.
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Hi Dani,
Actually, I did this before my James Brown calamity. My voice is still in recovery.
But I'm very happy that you liked this tune. Man, are you gonna like Close ..
Dean
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Here's a little thought experiment for everyone to consider:
You forgot your watch at home and you're walking past an atomic clock that indicates it is exactly 2 o'clock. In fact, at that moment it is 2 o'clock, exactly. There are no tricks in this experiment. Now, do you know that it's two o'clock?
Acually, atomic clocks have never been correct as to the real date and time, which is a planetary time event. And -- since Barry Setterfield back in '81 first published his work showing that the speed of light has actually been slowing down and not a constant, more and more physicists are finally climbing on board that undeniable bit of hard evidence. Turns out that c is NOT a constant... --Mac
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Guitar is impeccable, has a Louis Armstrong, What a Wonderful World feel thanks for sharing! My Music
My TunesPsalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.
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I am slowly learning to appreciate jazz music. As a guitar player I appreciate how difficult it is to master this style. I really enjoyed this song. The history of how music evolved is amazing.. I enjoyed your comments on this as well..
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Great thread and we also very much enjoyed the tune. A fine interpretation.
FWIW my favorite from Descartes: "If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things." It has a Zen feel to it.
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Aleck, I love the guitar playing and the vocal. Great intro. Thanks for posting. Tom
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Here's a little thought experiment for everyone to consider:
You forgot your watch at home and you're walking past an atomic clock that indicates it is exactly 2 o'clock. In fact, at that moment it is 2 o'clock, exactly. There are no tricks in this experiment. Now, do you know that it's two o'clock?
Leave to Mac to throw a knuckle ball like that. Einstein himself considered the possibility of a variable speed of light, but as it stands, the issue is very controversial, Setterfield's arguments notwithstanding. I made a bad mistake in using an atomic clock. It could have been any old clock tower with the hands showing 2 o'clock. To review: (1) It really is 2 o'clock (2) You believe it is 2 o'clock, because ... (3) The clock tower says it is 2 o'clock, and finally (4) No, you do not know that it is 2 o'clock. Why not? Answer next time.
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Hey Tommy,
Thanks so much for the positive review.
Dean
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Thank you PGFantastic.
I'm flatted to be compared to The Mighty Louis.
I once heard some critic say this about him, "Great ideas, perfect intonation, crummy voice. You got a problem with that?" Yup, I got the crummy voice down pat - I know it sounds like it's been marinating in Bourbon and cigarette smoke for years, but I want to assure everyone that none of the above is true.
No, I've always been a Scotch man and I love my cigars. After dinner? Yummm ...
Aleck
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Ah, a reference to Descartes from Janice and Bud. Sweet. And now the answer to the puzzle involving the clock:
(1) It really is 2 o'clock
(2) You believe it is 2 o'clock, because ...
(3) The clock tower says it is 2 o'clock, and finally
(4) No, you do not know that it is 2 o'clock.
It took about two thousand years for philosophers to come up with a reasonable definition of knowledge, even though it isn't perfect: knowledge is true justified belief.
For you to say that know something, call it X, means that
(1) You believe X.
(2) X is true.
(3) Your belief in X is justified.
It is in (3) where the claim to know it is 2 o'clock breaks down. You see, the day before at exactly 2, the clock broke and it's hands have been fixed in this position right up to the moment - purely by coincidence - you walked by and looked at that clock. Your belief that it is 2 o'clock is not justified. Clock ... she broke, man!
Dean
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