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Newbert--
Your Keyboard has its own internal sounds?
Then highlight Portable Grand 1 and not any of the softsynths and enjoy ZERO latency from the hardware synth in the piano, using the piano's internal voices.
If that piano has a full GM bank and higher patches in it, UNcheck "Use DXi" and use the likely better sounds in the piano for all other MIDI instruments as well.
--Mac
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Newbert--
Your Keyboard has its own internal sounds?
Then highlight Portable Grand 1 and not any of the softsynths and enjoy ZERO latency from the hardware synth in the piano, using the piano's internal voices.
If that piano has a full GM bank and higher patches in it, UNcheck "Use DXi" and use the likely better sounds in the piano for all other MIDI instruments as well.
--Mac My keyboard does have many internal sounds, Mac. However, it's my understanding that Yamaha (at least this one) doesn't support the full GM bank. I believe they use a proprietary mix of voices that differs slightly from "mainstream" GM. If I do as you suggest, I believe that I would not be able to record into BIAB. Is that correct? Just trying to learn how all of this works together..... Thanks.
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My keyboard does have many internal sounds, Mac. However, it's my understanding that Yamaha (at least this one) doesn't support the full GM bank. I believe they use a proprietary mix of voices that differs slightly from "mainstream" GM.
It should have Yamaha "XG" bank in it, which is basically the same as GM but with different Patch Number ordering. BiaB has a "Use XG" command under the GM MIDI menu, a one-button solution to that nonproblem. If I do as you suggest, I believe that I would not be able to record into BIAB. Is that correct?
You can still record. The Audio output of the keyboard, though is best done by using L and R audio cables from keyboard to Line Input of your sound device on the computer so that you will hear both MIDI and RealInstruments coming from the same speakers. You also lose the rapid "Render" to wsv, mp3, etc. feature because the "Use DXi" must be unchecked in order to have BB route to your external hardware MIDI synth in the keyboard. But - you should try it and see, because the sounds in that keyboard may just sound better than any of your DXi.VSTi synths anyway. AND - there is that guarantee of near zero latency when using the sounds from the keyboard to consider. --Mac
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It should have Yamaha "XG" bank in it, which is basically the same as GM but with different Patch Number ordering. BiaB has a "Use XG" command under the GM MIDI menu, a one-button solution to that nonproblem.
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You can still record.
The Audio output of the keyboard, though is best done by using L and R audio cables from keyboard to Line Input of your sound device on the computer so that you will hear both MIDI and RealInstruments coming from the same speakers.
You also lose the rapid "Render" to wsv, mp3, etc. feature because the "Use DXi" must be unchecked in order to have BB route to your external hardware MIDI synth in the keyboard.
But - you should try it and see, because the sounds in that keyboard may just sound better than any of your DXi.VSTi synths anyway.
AND - there is that guarantee of near zero latency when using the sounds from the keyboard to consider.
--Mac Yes, you make a good point. I'm learning as we go along.... Yes, the Yamaha has "XG" in it. Are you referring to the "GM == > Send MIDI Message == > Send XG Mode on Message (Yamaha)" command or the "Auto Send XG Mode on Startup" command? With either one, I get a message that says: "Yamaha XG users (and others) should likely NOT send this XG on message, and should send GM on message instead, so that drum patches will work. Do you want to proceed with sending an XG? (YES / NO / CANCEL)" BIAB is telling me NOT to do this, so should I? And if so, which of the two commands should I invoke? Also, While I don't completely understand the terminology in the part of your post that I highlighted, I can't route BIAB output from my laptop computer (or ANY output for that matter) into the keyboard because this keyboard has no "Line-In" capability (sadly). Thanks.
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just run midi in/out, or USB mid all should be good
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...Are you referring to the "GM == > Send MIDI Message == > Send XG Mode on Message (Yamaha)" command or the "Auto Send XG Mode on Startup" command? The Auto Send means that you won't have to revisit the setting every time BB is started up to get the XG sent, and that would be the one I'd recommend using. It is easily turned off in future by simply going there again. With either one, I get a message that says:
"Yamaha XG users (and others) should likely NOT send this XG on message, and should send GM on message instead, so that drum patches will work. Do you want to proceed with sending an XG? (YES / NO / CANCEL)"
BIAB is telling me NOT to do this, so should I? And if so, which of the two commands should I invoke? Many of rhe newer Yamaha keyboards can and will run from the standard GM command now, so try leaving it as is first and see if the Drums are working and that the other sounds in the patchlist are what they say they are and not "one off" from where they should be. If anything like that occurs, and your keyboard is playing wrong instruments, try the XG on message.
Also, While I don't completely understand the terminology in the part of your post that I highlighted, I can't route BIAB output from my laptop computer (or ANY output for that matter) into the keyboard because this keyboard has no "Line-In" capability (sadly).
Thanks.
Keyboard does not need the Line INput, keyboard needs Line OUTput to the computer's LINE INPUT. Some keyboards don't have an Audio Output on them, if so, just use the Headphone output with proper Y adapter to route the stereo to L and R Line INPUTs on your computer. You can still test and even use BB though, the MIDI sounds will just come out of the piano's speakers instead of the computer's speakers. --Mac
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Very good stuff. Thanks again for the lesson - I'm learning a lot.
This forum is great!
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