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I get a click at the end of all songs(BIAB 2014).
It sounds like the lead-in drumstick clicks. I have gone to the "Count In/Met" menu but see nothing there to control this.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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Hi,
Have you installed the latest update? (This information is found under "Help | About Band in a box". For example 2014(380) says it's version 2014 and update 380.
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Noel,
Just did the 380 update thing and just tried it again.
Still clickin'.
Jim
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Don't know for certain whether this will clear that up, but it is worth trying.
Under the Options menu inside BB, try the Second "Return to Factory Settings" button, the one that not only restores the critical intrface.bbw file, but also resets the SoundCard and MIDI via the Wizard.
You also may have to shut down BB and reboot the computer afterwards as well, this to free up resources.
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Jim, I don't have this problem, but I have a vague recollection that I have heard it at some point in time. Just to help me get a little more insight into your set up, could you please answer the following questions. 1. What are your settings for the Count-In / Metronome? These are found via "Prefs" (#1). Count-in/Met (#2) on the below image. The image shows my settings. Is there anything in your setup that is different from mine?  2. Do you have looping engaged? On the image below, you can see that I have "NEVER loop entire song" selected.  3. Do you use multiple choruses? As you can see below, on my setup, I only select a single chorus.  If you can answer the above, it will help me try and isolate what might be causing it if Mac's suggestion of returning to factory settings doesn't bring relief. Regards, Noel
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Hi Jim, You are not alone. I have this strange behavior also, I have tried factory reset, including midi, all no good. It did it with 2013 and it does it with 2014 (380). If I record to a WAV file it doesn't include it. All my songs have loop unchecked, and all have endings. Generally all of my songs are frozen, once I get the sound I like, but that doesn't even seem to matter. It doesn't do it always when I play the song, but it does it with many different songs. Perhaps the first few times I play the song it doesn't do it, then once it starts it does it every time. Sometimes it does it from the very first play. It's not conclusive, but it seems to be able to always do it eventually. It even does it if I press Play From (Control-F) and play from a position near the end - every time. Interestingly, if I use BiaB to record the output to an audio file, it doesn't do it (it's not recorded in the Wave file). It is coming from the Drums track, as it doesn't do it if I mute the Drums, and does it again as soon as I un-mute. It sounds just like the song intends to start again, and plays the first beat of the count-in. The delay between end of the song and that beat is several seconds, and also, the highlighted bar jumps to somewhere else, rather than staying at the last played bar. Is that what you are witnessing? Updates, Return to factory settings, reboots, restarts etc have not resolved. I eventually created a video screen capture showing the phenomena and sent to PG Support. They have passed it on as a reported issue. Here is the original thread I recommend that you may wish to report also though. It would be beneficial for them to know that it may not be an isolated case. Regards Trevor
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I seem to recall experiencing this years ago when I tried to use 2-bar endings; sometimes it would be a drum sound and once in a while a piano note. When I stopped using BIAB's endings and began making my own, the problem went away. Not sure if this is the same issue, but it might be worth checking out.
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This happens to me all the time but it is not a click but a quick "blip" that is all the instruments sounding at once. It only happens with RT's not MIDI. I have diagnosed that it is the sound card in my computer "switching off"
I have mentioned it several times on this forum and tried everything that has been suggested - nothing works. I even sent a file to PG support and they couldn't hear the blip. As a workaround, I extend all songs by about 10 bars which gives me time to press my foot switch after the song finishes and before the blip. The foot switch is programmed with the spacebar which stops the song and prevents the blip.
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Noel96, 1. Mine looks the same. 2. No looping engaged 3. No multiple chouruse VideoTrack, I upgraded from ver. 2009 and it was not an issue until I got BIAB2014. It does it on every song including when I do the Play From thing(which is much slower to start “From” than 2009 was) My “click” comes just after the end of the song. The highlighted bar flashes in the next bar to the last bar of the song. Click/flash at the same time. 1manband, I do not use the “two bar ending” thing. I do use “Tag Exists”. PS: I don’t know if it has anything to do with this “click” thing, but this 2014 version is really slow compared to my 2009 version.
I just timed it this time when I started the program and it took 2 minutes and 8 seconds.
The “play from” but also seems to take forever most of the time. Sometimes if I double click on the bar I want to start from it will be quicker.
Also, songs will sometimes take what seems forever to load and at other times not so much.
Also, it is normal to always have a part marker and the last chord of the song in the bar just after the last bar of the song? I thought maybe that was the problem but if I remove them save the song, reload the song……………they are still there.
At this point I’m not sure it was worth the nearly $200 to upgrade. There seem to be a few quirks that should have been addressed before issuing but I’ll keep working on it until all of my 70 year old hair falls out. 
Really appreciate the help.
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I hear the click many times as well, and have not isolated the cause. To me, it sounds like the first beat of a count-in and is only on the drum track.
The behavior of the final part marker is normal.
Your program does take too long to load. Tell us if you are running an antivirus program and which one. Tell us about your OS - is it Windows XP or 7 or 8.1? 32 or 64 bit?
Download and run the free utility Geekbench and report your score so we have a sense of your machine's power.
Did you install BIAB to the /Program Files folder (either one, if running 64-bit)? This is a known problem.
Ps it might be a good idea to start a new thread entitled "2014 takes too long to load" or some such. In my opinion, this is not related to the click. Give us as much info as you can, starting with the answers to my questions. A new thread would get you better attention for this problem.
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I experienced the sound of the Drum countin click at end of songs sometimes with ver2012 and to a lesser amount with ver2013.
With the release of 2014, haven't heard it yet.
Here's a cou0les of questions for all who have that annoying sound at end of songs:
*Are you using ASIO or MME audio driver when it happens?
*Does it happen with both, or perhaps only with one, or more times with one than the other?
This may also have something to do with the type, brand and model of sound device in use, too, I'm thinking differences in the way drivers may handle things.
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I found that using an external synth allows the mysterious click to surface. If you are using an external synth, try switching a software synth. BIAB supplies two with the software, both by Roland.
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To Mac: I've used both MME and ASIO drivers in BIAB and have not noticed a difference with regard to the ending click (bang) on the drum track from RealDrums.
To Rachael: I use an external MIDI synth (Roland Fantom XR) and an external audio device (Tascam FW-1884). The Tascam is also a mixer (and a control surface for DAW processing) so I don't want to give it up.
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I seem to have a slightly different problem but maybe related to the above.
At first bar of song if I type C..g (so that only the first bar of song is played with example guitar no drums) after the two bar count-in I hear the drum on the first beat of first bar of the song.
In other words the drum is playing on first beat of first bar even though its supposed to be muted. Using vsc and latest update 380 on widnows 7 32 bit.
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Hello Everyone;
This mysterious "click" 'bang' or whatever has been happening to me as well, but as I am a "newbie" to BIAB (first purchase Dec. 2013)I thought that I was doing or setting up something incorrectly.
But, now it appears that there is something amiss with the system/program???
It seems to be only with the RealTracks, but I am not that well versed with using all the different parts of BIAB so it could be happening elsewhere.
I am using BIAB Ultra 2014 if that makes a difference.
Thanks for posting this informative posting.
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As the other posts indicate, we have been around this topic a few times over a few versions. It hasn't (to my knowledge) been solved because it does not happen for everyone and must therefore be dependent on individual installations. I had assumed it was related to the Count-in/Metronome and Loop settings, but now I'm not sure.
If any others who do experience this click/bang can post what they use as discussed above, perhaps we will discover the common cause. Tony, Rachael and Mac have made suggestions as to things you can check.
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I experienced the sound of the Drum countin click at end of songs sometimes with ver2012 and to a lesser amount with ver2013.
With the release of 2014, haven't heard it yet.
Here's a cou0les of questions for all who have that annoying sound at end of songs:
*Are you using ASIO or MME audio driver when it happens?
*Does it happen with both, or perhaps only with one, or more times with one than the other?
This may also have something to do with the type, brand and model of sound device in use, too, I'm thinking differences in the way drivers may handle things.
--Mac I'm using MME, and external synth for some sounds (not drums), although this didn't seem to matter. Sometimes (but very rarely), I have heard two beats, but most often I get one. It sounds exactly the same as the first count-in beat of tapping drum sticks together. I've never heard any other sound. I'm always using Real Drums, although I suspect the count-in is not part of "Real Drums", but rather is generated using midi or similar?
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Thanks Rachael for your excellent detective work.
I have reported to PGM, but it seems that they might have known about this already for some time.
Anyway, I suggested that anybody observing this might consider reporting to PGM. The squeaky wheel...
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Using "C.", I only hear the reverb. Using "C..", I hear a stop with nothing after the last note. Using "C...", I hear a held note and then nothing. My count-ins are silent, just a visual count-in. Don't know if that makes a difference. Later, Ray
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