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Hi I have a number of tunes In BIAB 14 where lyrics are carefully synced to the midi melody. Have tried the "Vocal Synth" with several of these but only achieved a sound that is somewhere between a cat and a muted trumpet. with no words. BIAB sent me to the synth's web site at www.sinsy.jp but couldn't figure out what to do next. I did hear some impressive demos though, would love to get it working. It (she) sings better than I do. Help here would be greatly appreciated....Hank
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If those songs don't have the Note Based Lyrics but instead have the older lyrics that appear above the notation in Notation View, I don't think they will work with this feature.
You would have to first have a Melody entered on the Melody track that follows the lyrics, then enter the lyrics as Note Based in order to do it.
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Perhaps try to find and work with a real singer? Those synth things are generally pretty lousy.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Hi Mac
When You mention note based lyrics, I presume you mean each word or syllable is placed according to the correct note. The lyrics I am using were entered this way.
Thanks for your reply....Hank
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I hadn't tried it out before, but I get exactly the same results by using Vocal Synth - Auto Mode. The syllables all sound like "kih".
However, Vocal Synth - Manual Mode works OK. After creating the file, you can manually load it on the Sinsy site, then choose wav and save that for loading into BiaB.
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Also, there are two different vocalists listed, in my testing I found that the Chinese one did a much better job at the English lyrics than the Japanese one, YMMV.
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I thank you all for suggestions
Jazzman, I have viewed the video but It's not working correctly for me. When I go to sinsy.jp and click where you choose file, a window headed "Choose file to upload" opens and every folder in my computer is listed there, so I have no idea what to do next....Hank
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You must locate the bb songfile you want her to sing, it must be .mgu type, and select it from there.
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Wow! I listened to that and the generated vocals were...awful!  What in the world would anyone use this for? It wasn't just that it sounded artificial...many of the words/syllables were not even remotely correct. And, because PG used that example as their demo I am assuming this is as good as the current technology gets? Seriously, what would anyone use this for?
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Hi All, Take a listen to this and see what can be achieved (pity PGMusic can't replicate) Vocal Synth George
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Hi Mac, as i was Curious as a Cat, i tried all that, and guess what, LOL: ... it indeed sounded like one of our furred friends ... But if you can get something more out of it, you got me as i am curious again ! - F
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The thing is in its infancy, who knows at this point in time if it will develop into something usable in production, or perhaps into something along the lines of a Special Effect sort of thing someday, as in the overuse/abuse of Autotune to get the Cher Effect was.
But consider that there are some folks who cannot speak or sing anymore, like our own good forum member Don, who just might be able to get enjoyment out of their songwriting and demos from the use of this feature.
So many on this forum only see Band in a Box as whatever it is that they themselves want to use it for, there's plenty of room for all the other stuff as well, if you don't like a particular feature, style, addon or command in the program, just don't use it. There are likely others who view that same thing as their "must have".
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with a software version of TC helicon available here in BiaB why even try that. Just sign a very simple none vibrato basic vocal track, and generate a harmony and have it fill out separate tracks, and then mix and texture to taste.
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For those who question why anyone would want this vocal synth. When I'm playing one of my very rare gigs, I'm backing my vocalist along with my RB made backing tracks. At home I practice with the same backing tracks, substituting piano or guitar etc. where the vocalist would normally be. I just thought it would be nice to have a vocal at those times....Hank
PS That youtube demo is fantastic. thanks.
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The thing is in its infancy, who knows at this point in time if it will develop into something usable in production, or perhaps into something along the lines of a Special Effect sort of thing someday, as in the overuse/abuse of Autotune to get the Cher Effect was.
But consider that there are some folks who cannot speak or sing anymore, like our own good forum member Don, who just might be able to get enjoyment out of their songwriting and demos from the use of this feature.
So many on this forum only see Band in a Box as whatever it is that they themselves want to use it for, there's plenty of room for all the other stuff as well, if you don't like a particular feature, style, addon or command in the program, just don't use it. There are likely others who view that same thing as their "must have".
--Mac Yeah, I certainly appreciate that sort of use and I have heard computer generated voices that were reasonably accurate but still artificial sounding...these would be great for someone who cannot speak or sing. But that demo was terrible and many of the words were not even remotely correct. Why would anyone want something so bad? You could hit a garbage can lid with a stick and get closer on many of the words!
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Hi All, Take a listen to this and see what can be achieved (pity PGMusic can't replicate) Vocal Synth George Thanks for the video...that one was a lot better. I wonder if they did a lot of work on that one though? Maybe the automatic stuff is just still a long ways off from getting the words right.
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During the beta testing I ran "Amazing Grace" thru Sinsy as a test.
First time through, using Note Based Lyrics "as written" got some pretty bizarre pronunciations.
"Ah - Mozz - in - Grauss" kind if thing,.
Rewriting the Lyrics such that the spelling forced Sinsy to sing the vowel sounds more properly, such that she did not confuse "Short a" for "Long A" and etc. helped a bit. "Ah Maze Ing Graess"...
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I worked with some early speech synthesizers in the 70s, and we had to program words with exaggerated phonemes along the lines Mac just described. "Hello" sounded like a fast, clipped "HEElow". We had to type "Hay-uh-LOW-uh" to make it sound realistic.
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Meanwhile, I'm still trying to get sinsy to speak (or sing) to me....Hank
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