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I'm looking for a style I can't seem to find anywhere in BB with it's over 3000 styles. Some time back, I started to look for a style that would allow me to build songs on a style similar to the old Waylon Jennings outlaw signature style. This song is very similar to the style I'm looking for. It's basically Waylon's signature style. Lonesome On'ry and mean and Are you sure Hank done it this way It's a kind of 4 on the floor country beat. I've played songs in this style in bands and it is quarters on the guitar using full chords..... I ask because today I used the preview and browsed country and rock styles in search of this style and I found nothing even remotely close enough to make it work. I have 2 people asking me to assist with songs.... one is already written and one is a co-write invite and both songs have this basic Waylon stomp style. It is a very popular style here in NC and several bands formed their basic set list on this style of music. Any ideas, suggestions, etc, would be appreciated. I may start looking into how to make this style since I can't find it in the list.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I'm looking for a style I can't seem to find anywhere in BB with it's over 3000 styles. I hate when that happens!
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So I looked on Youtube and searched to try to find any videos that are a "how to" guide for using STYLE MAKER.... I can't find anything that explains how to use SM to make a new style....
I have style maker open and don't have a clue what any of that represents.
Any ideas other than call tech support?
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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found some stuff on the hard drive in the tutorials....
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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If you go to the support section there are some archived videos that I believe go through how to create your own style. Unless you have the everything pack. If so the have tutorial videos that go into style creation pretty thoroughly
Another option is to get a midi file of a song in that style import it and biab has an option to create a style from that
One more is to get an mp3 and load that up run audio chord wizard then make as style..
I am writing this from memory in my manual readings so don't quote my suggestions as gospel on the midi option or the audio option
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I found the videos.... they are on the hard drive version.....
I started to poke around with style maker and editing some existing styles..... not exactly what I'd call child's play or intuitive.
I might need to go old skool and record it in the audio world if I can't get a quick handle on making a new style that sounds good.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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There is indeed a Style Wizard designed to more easily make a MIDI style from a Standard MIDI file.
Starting with BB2014, you also have the option to roll your own User Tracks to create RealTracks.
Mixing both of those together might also be a good plan, whenever MIDI is mixed together with RealTracks and RealDrums, there is a rather startling effect in which MIDI tracks can sound more realistic.
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You might find a style in Bluegrass or some other genre other than Country and Rock. Lots of gems hidden where you least expect to find them. It just takes (a lot of) time.
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Herb A couple of ideas 1: What about Notes Norton's web site? He has some style disks, although not sure if he has what you want, but there are audio samples (mp3). 2: You're also probably aware that BiaB can import a style from a midi File? If you can find a midi file with the style you want, you may be able to generate the style this way. HTH anyway Cheers Trevor
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I was on the same track as ... well videotrack. here are a couple in this style disk http://www.nortonmusic.com/style6.html#disk6
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I came up with another idea (think I am going to use this myself)
If you have fl studio you could make a drum and bass line pretty easily then save that as a midi file and create your style in BIAB from that. If you don't have flstudio it is a free fully functional demo download. You can save to midi with the demo. But you couldn't' save the project but who cares... as it's the midi that's the key. And from my experience it is pretty easy to create a simple progression for drum and bass as they have a lot if templates for the drums.... The bass part might be a little more tricky but still is not that hard I have done many.... And I'll betcha that is a whole lot easier learning cure than trying to edit or create a style from scratch in BIAB
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Another idea is jammer pro now with all its styles for $119. Some nice midi styles in there though takes a little more work than biab to get a song together. With the exception of the guitar riff this song was all done in jammer, wasn't that much work to get the style together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5twmrLdR8-ASome nice country, dance and jazz styles there too. I just couldn't find the style I wanted in biab so that's why I used jammer. musiclover
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Has Jammer ever updated those same old styles?
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just for grins, when I have the time I think I might try making some real tracks in this style.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Has Jammer ever updated those same old styles?
No and it seems they don't intend to either, nor for that matter even update the program. Overall biab wins hands down. But that is not to say you cant get what you need in jammer for the odd occasion that you need it, usually when you cant get a particular style in biab. Probably the reason that jammer is being sold cheaply all the support for it has ended, but I still like having it around. Musiclover
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hey i actually played with this and was amazed on how easy it was to make an entirely new style. I simply went into flstudio created a drum line and a bass track using fpc (drum) and boo bass . for the bass line I generated a quick bass line using the groove wizard. I inserted 16 measures of drum and bass. then rendered to midi. This process took 6 min or less (obviously more for a new user to flstudio due to a learning curve)
then opened BIAB new project. went to styles and created the style from the midi file. that process to a whole 3 min...
and it came out killer!!!!
you should try this method as it will open up a huge expansion in the way you can create new unique styles based on exactly what you want.
if you want me to give a detailed list on how to do this let me know and ill post in the tips and tricks.. I may do this anyways.
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posting a HOW TO is always a good idea.
I'm figuring that what you did is how I may have to do this project
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Yes, a think a lot of Forum Users would be appreciative of the actual workflow. Thanks!
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OK Here goes: I am assuming you know how to work in flstudio... if not there are tutorials to get used to the workflow but in general its pretty easy: Another Note:
you can use another tool and do the same thing be it reason or sonar or any daw that you can export midi and has piano rolls. One more suggestion is do not use ez drummer to do this as it maps midi a little differently you don't want that added hassle...
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Open FL Studio and create a new project
adjust your tempo your tempo to what you want
Drums:
Add a new channel and select FPC (itis the best for this as it shows the different the drum mapping on the piano roll)
now you can either use a pre selected pattern or create one in the piano roll
I suggest making a few variations example: pattern1 base pattern pattern2 double bass variation ect....
quantize
so now you have a few drum patterns
go to playlist and paint each of the patterns in the song where you want them. I suggest doing around 8 or 16 measures
play it as a song to make sure it what you want
Bass:
in a new pattern add new channel and select boo bass
make a 4 bar pattern example: c, (or play around with the groove
You do not need to change root key as your making a style. You just want varied patterns in 1 key.
quantize the bass pattern
same thing applies to the bass pattern make some variations in seperate patterns and quantize
play it as a song to make sure it what you want
you can make other insruments. just repeat above step, however I am unsure of results
as I have done this with bass and drum only
once you have the song the way you want it Save the song.
Got to tools\macros and prepare for midi. Note this step is undoable so save before.
then select file\ export to midi
save the midi file to a directory you want
BIAB:
Opened BIAB new project.
go to Styles \ Style wizard (make style from midi )
then open
select the instruments you want for each track
there are a whole bunch of other options from there but if you just generate the style you'll have your new style.
Note: once I have the new style i disregard the song made and make a new song with the created style.
Have fun... Note: you can edit the new style in the style editor if something doesn't come out quite right but you now have a good base foundation
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i did add another instrument with this process and it worked. note: you are limited to the tracks in biab so don't do too many...
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