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I'm with Mac on this one.
It's okay to ask for features that help your workflow (and many have been implemented over time), but it drives me crazy when someone says, "Why does it do this? I don't need this. This is a worthless feature. Please remove it from the program."
If I recall correctly, someone even suggested completely removing MIDI from the program, because all they need are the RealTracks (since they didn't use MIDI).
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If I recall correctly, someone even suggested completely removing MIDI from the program, because all they need are the RealTracks (since they didn't use MIDI).
That is one of the comments that I remember as well. What's funny about it to me is that quite a few who declared the "no MIDI" stance are now the same ones clamoring that they cannot edit RealTracks as one would be able to do with MIDI. -- And completely misunderstanding the abject differences between the two. Then there is the ever-repeating, "Too many Jazz styles" that comes around with every new release that also has plenty of other style genres included in it. I'm just glad that PGM is not one of those companies that attempts to respond to such, instead offering many goodies for many different kinds of people. Won't mention any names, but there are softwares that I used to use - and pay for no longer - that succumbed to that sort of clamoring and in the process managed to make a mess out of what was once a promising endeavor. --Mac
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For me, simply put, I like to come up with a basic arrangement in BIAB then add the details in RB.
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"all you whippersnappers who don't like MIDI and jazz should just get off my lawn!!" 
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"all you whippersnappers who don't like MIDI and jazz should just get off my lawn!!" Why do you feel that way about RealTracks?
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"all you whippersnappers who don't like MIDI and jazz should just get off my lawn!!" Why do you feel that way about RealTracks? Feel what way about RealTracks? I love's me some RealTracks and truth be told I am starting to love MIDI too now that I got GPO4 to play them better!
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So then, who or what comment in this thread led you to post that remark?
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So then, who or what comment in this thread led you to post that remark? honestly, no one in particular!  I just read through the whole thread and it really has that "get offa my lawn" feel to it!
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It's a horses for courses thing but another thing that's often not said is that you buy BIAB and you get RB bundled with it ... for no extra cost (yeah I'm sure the price we pay has accounted for RB but the price is worth it for BIAB alone)
They are becoming closer in terms of functionality and what you have between the two is more than you would get offered for the same price by other software companies.
I used to use BIAB to write and then move to RB but for me, RB is so good these days [for the kind of tracks I need to write], that it has become my "go to" app for even noodling with ideas.
The fact that PG have kept development going on both programs is just great and one day there may be a single app that incorporates all our requirements in one bag. Until then, there's still choice a plenty.
Not many developers would run two converging apps as separate entitites for ever.
The way I tend to think about it is like NT and windows. If you're running XP or later, you're actually running more NT than windows.
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I also start in BIAB and then finish off in RB.
The songs just generate faster in BIAB and is just a little more intuitive (IMO) to speed up the first stage of getting the backtrack sorted. After that RB is again better suited for the recording phase of my creations.
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Trevor wrote: Once opened in RB, save as a RB SEQ file, and then the next time the song is loaded in RB, it's instantly playable.
Thanks Trevor, I was getting ready to ask about that.
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Trevor wrote: Once opened in RB, save as a RB SEQ file, and then the next time the song is loaded in RB, it's instantly playable.
Thanks Trevor, I was getting ready to ask about that.
Joey Hi Joey, thanks for the feedback and kind words. Glad to be able to assist in any small way possible. Cheers Trevor
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I am a score writer who takes the BIAB generated midi file and imports it into FINALE 2014 and/or LOGIC Studio
RB and RealTracks do not alway generate a midi file. If you are preparing music for a band or orchestra that actually reads music, it is great to be able to generate those notes and have them printed out for the band to read.
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