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Look at a couple more things and follow some logic.
Programs run in RAM. That means that if you have a lot of TSR (terminate and stay resident) programs running, your RAM is full and you are using swap space for your executable program. Thus when the program needs to make a call back to the memory page holding the program, you need to go back through your processor, back to the swap space on your hard drive, find and load what that call is asking for, and then come back through your processor toward your RAM. This is why IT nerds preach about having as much RAM available as possible. (If you are running XP you can only really utilize 3gb of RAM no matter how much your system says you have available. AVAILABLE and ACCESSIBLE are 2 very different terms.) Bottom line is to make as much RAM as possible available, so load nothing besides RB when you use it and test to see if that makes the problem go away.
Also, and you may already do this, click START ==> RUN and type in
%temp%
That will open your system temp folder. Delete as much as you can. (Anything in use will not delete. That is normal. Just get rid of all you can.) Your system refers back to those temp files and that slows your system down by wasting CPU cycles doing it. You RB cache of temp files will clear and reset every time you start the program. Save often and restart RB. As soon as you notice RB starting to be sluggish when you select anything (to change gain, for example), save your song and reboot.
As far as number of tracks, I have been as far as 23 tracks on one particular song that Rog had his students do "choir" vocals on. That song ended up with 2 lead vocal tracks, 6 backup vocal tracks from Rog, and 6 vocal tracks from me. 14 tracks for JUST vocals.
But bottom line, get back to computer basics for what you are seeing. This sounds like a computer performance issue more than software. Defrag will not help this. Think about what defrag does. It takes segmented files and makes them contiguous. Those files will load no matter what, and once they load, it no longer matters if they are fragmented or not. Defrag may speed up loading time by 2 milliseconds but means nothing after the loading is done. Most worthless utility out there, and one that techs at the level of Geek Squad who know nothing better will tell you is a fix for your problem. (DO NOT use Geek Squad. All they are trained to do is upsell. I set them up once and busted them but that's a whole other story.) You sound like you are having a system interrupt (an IRQ) that is "breaking in" on the CPU as it runs your RB process.
Just my dime.
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Also, and you may already do this, click START ==> RUN and type in
%temp% actually, I don't do that already.. this is the first time I ever heard about it.... thanks, Eddie!
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I agree about use of %temp% - a good tip, Eddie, but there have indeed been times when performing a defrag fixes bad operation, stuttering audio and poor loading of Realtracks - BUT - it is always something that happens when I'm using Band in a Box, defrag doesn't seem to cause issues for me with RealBand.
Not trying to argue with Eddie, his point is valid enough, especially in these times of hard drives that are very large in storage size as compared to those of a few years back, just want to make sure that those reading won't decide that the defrag is not necessary with Band in a Box, which has indeed been "cured" of various playback probs using a good defrag program like Defraggler. The two programs may appear to "do the same thing" as regards the ability to load and play BiaB Styles, Realtracks and Realdrums, but the two also do it in distinctly differing ways "under the hood" apparently.
--Mac
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In my experience, a good geek can use defrag effectively when needed.
It's definitely not the first 'go to' here, but it can help, depending on the system set up.
Especially for those using the same drive to read audio output data and write the audio input data. Having a large reliable open chunk of drive space can help in this (and other) situations. Drive thrash and all ..
The way I use RB it is often 'reading' (playback of existing tracks) over 20 tracks. With effects.
Then I ask it to record another bunch .. it may be 2 or it may be 8 or 16 more. If I can have one drive 'reading' and another one 'writing' the incoming data, that's the best scenario. However if I am expecting a single drive to do both, defrag can be helpful.
Experiments have found that using defrag as a first step, then re-saving the RB file (so it interweaves the tracks as the file saves) has improved performance also.
Props to Silvertones for that tidbit.
Recording audio, generating tracks, and doing what we do with BiaB/RB (including FX etc) is a pretty specific/touchy thing. Things keep getting better and better for us; enjoy!
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Things keep getting better and better for us; enjoy!
Yes indeed, remember recording under Win95 when you had better remember to stop the Taskbar Clock so that it wouldn't interrupt audio streaming? And all the other "must do" tweaks to the system as well. Today you can pretty much just purchase a laptop or desktop, attach a USB sound device, install drivers and your favorite music making software and expect things to work fairly nicely. --Mac
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Pardon me if I missed it but do we know the specs of the PC? All it says in your sig Pat is Win 7 Home, nothing about the computer itself.
Bob
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