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Found the 144 pics.... VU meters! oooohhh [/END THREAD HIJACK]
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Found the 144 pics.... VU meters! oooohhh [/END THREAD HIJACK] "Grandpa - tell us about the olden times, when you had to use VU meters!" 
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I liked VU meters, gave you a sense of being technical hee hee
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I liked VU meters, gave you a sense of being technical hee hee You can still use them! http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MBP2
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Holy crap, that's a lot of money.
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I love VU meters, but I've learned to adapt to other means to monitor gain.
One such is used in the Focusrite 6i6 and 18i8 in which the rings around the gain knobs glow with intensity, turning full green, then red as the limit is exceeded and distortion would result. I thought I would hate this, but I love it now. In the corner of my eye, I can be aware of any red without actually concentrating on looking at it.
And of course, an alternative to VU meters is the colored column of LEDs.
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Some TASCAM interfaces work great - avoid the US800 like the plague and do not expect any reasonable technical support from TASCAM if you buy one of their lemons like the US-800. Other TASCAM products have a great legacy. Which will you get if you buy one? That's the gamble. What is wrong with the Tascam US800? Is it just you that got a lemon or have you actually come across many other complaints?
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I love VU meters, but I've learned to adapt to other means to monitor gain.
One such is used in the Focusrite 6i6 and 18i8 in which the rings around the gain knobs glow with intensity, turning full green, then red as the limit is exceeded and distortion would result. I thought I would hate this, but I love it now. In the corner of my eye, I can be aware of any red without actually concentrating on looking at it.
And of course, an alternative to VU meters is the colored column of LEDs.
I have similar thoughts about the 18i8 and there's never any doubt which gain knob needs dialed down
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Sound card advice? Always follow suit and never trump unless you have no choice...... Oops!!!  wrong card advice. (lol) (Behringer).... I have plenty of Behringer equipment in my studio and have never had a problem. (knocking on wood) My studio sound cards are Deltas and blasters. Wouldn't trade them for them for any other kind. Never had problem with any of them.
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Some TASCAM interfaces work great - avoid the US800 like the plague and do not expect any reasonable technical support from TASCAM if you buy one of their lemons like the US-800. Other TASCAM products have a great legacy. Which will you get if you buy one? That's the gamble. What is wrong with the Tascam US800? Is it just you that got a lemon or have you actually come across many other complaints? . Google tascam us800 memory leak. . Windows only. Mac supposedly had no issues. Tascam fire sale priced them and dropped them from the product line while they carried on the 600, 1641, 1800, etc.
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Some TASCAM interfaces work great - avoid the US800 like the plague and do not expect any reasonable technical support from TASCAM if you buy one of their lemons like the US-800. Other TASCAM products have a great legacy. Which will you get if you buy one? That's the gamble. What is wrong with the Tascam US800? Is it just you that got a lemon or have you actually come across many other complaints? . Google tascam us800 memory leak. . Windows only. Mac supposedly had no issues. Tascam fire sale priced them and dropped them from the product line while they carried on the 600, 1641, 1800, etc. Tascam was one of the interfaces that when people came into the Cakewalk Music Creator forum with problems and said they had one..... the advice was to get rid of it and get a real interface.....same thing with the upgraded gamer cards and sound blasters of any model. Some things you just want to stay away from when you're recording music and want to do it right, and effortlessly.
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The US800 had actually really clean pre-amps, when it worked. There was a process you could go through to record/mix for about 1/2 hour, then shut your entire system, start back up the whole thing (turning on the US800 after fully loading windows), firing back up the DAW and getting back into it, which would avoid it just locking up your system, but it was a huge pain in the rear that was not worth it. The other thing that did work is that it truly worked as a very simple mixer without the PC connection.
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Hello I recently upgraded to audiophile 2015. I have some questions about `sound cards'.
Because of a short in the headphone out mini, I bought a cheap 24 dollar Turtle Beach usb thing that I wouldn't call a sound card. It's just an i/o as far as I can tell.
It did not seem to downgrade the output. It's a Toshiba Satellite L760. I was initially surprised at how decent the sound output of biab or other music files was.
So my question is this. Will buying a 149 dollar usb sound box make my biab real tracks sound any better? I do not need to record into the laptop. I use a mac/DP8, and a very good motu interface via PCIX to take care of that. The pc is just for gigs and practice. If I use an isolation transformer the ground hum from the usb i/o goes away. Other than upgraded i/o via quarter inch or XLR what would I gain with the Focusrite 2i2 or some other similar product? Thanks for your time.
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So my question is this. Will buying a 149 dollar usb sound box make my biab real tracks sound any better? I do not need to record into the laptop. I use a mac/DP8, and a very good motu interface via PCIX to take care of that. The pc is just for gigs and practice. If I use an isolation transformer the ground hum from the usb i/o goes away. Other than upgraded i/o via quarter inch or XLR what would I gain with the Focusrite 2i2 or some other similar product? Thanks for your time.
Ron
If you are not recording into a laptop, NO. If you are recording into a computer, YES. Kind of... The sound quality from the cheap cards is, for all intents and purposes, nearly identical since digital is digital no matter what the card. There might be some slight sonic differences due to various circuit designs in the amps. The bigger gain with a dedicated "pro-quality" USB interface is that in a computer, it can use the ASIO driver to better handle the multi-track tasks and process the synths in a timely real time manner. Latency is reduced to imperceptible levels.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Thanks for taking the time. I was thinking that no sonic improvement might be the case but wanted to be sure. I used biab to play back tracks only. Everything else in mac realated apps and pro enough for my needs. Although one day I like a few channels of something from Cranesone or Appogee. Those were hot when I was putting my recording stuff together.
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