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The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed #293013 04/26/15 09:17 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 216 Mesa country Central New Mexic... Ron Becker OP Apprentice
OP Ron Becker Apprentice Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 216 Mesa country Central New Mexic...	Hi biab fans, The window just to the right of where the `number of choruses' box appears, what is it called please and can I edit the color of the background or the text? Am I the only 70 year old person that notices how very clear the black numbers in the white `choruses number' window are and how very nearly invisible the white letters are on a light blue field? I will finish in the `what could you possibly be thinking area' Thanks for your time Ron let`er rip Matt. `15 Audiophile, Toshiba17", 3Mhz, 4gig ram, 500gig HD, Win7, Tascam 122mkII interface, Tascam 16 track 8 buss recording mixer, 2 Avalon747sps,CAD VX2 mic, AKG C1000s, mac and Digital Performer.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293014 04/26/15 09:31 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,032 Melbourne, Australia	Hi Ron Presumably you are referring to the one shown in the first image below. I don't think the color can be changed, but what came up in a recent post is that you can select the chord in the Chord Sheet and press Control<F2> and edit the value directly from there (see second image). Press Enter when edited / entered value is complete. (Incidentally, I agree that the contrast in the current chord box is not ideal... Hint) Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2015-04-27_18-26-15.jpg (14.79 KB, 130 downloads) 2015-04-27_18-28-53.jpg (45.29 KB, 129 downloads) BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293017 04/26/15 10:08 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,876 J JohnJohnJohn Veteran
JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,876	I just ignore it because it has such bad contrast. you do have to wonder who thought that was a good color combo though!

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293023 04/26/15 11:57 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,460 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,460 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted By: Ron Becker let`er rip Matt. ? What ? I don't know that it has a name. What it does have is comments about its placement, size, and now color/contrast. For something that some folks here did not know existed, it doesn't seem to have many fans. As long as we're on this subject, I'll add a suggestion. In a perfect world, I would like BIAB to behave more like, say, Microsoft Word and flag a chord that is typed wrong or especially a chord type that is not supported, rather than have the full entry just disappear. Then going into an edit mode would make more sense, as I could fix the chord rather than just re type it and hope I got it right. The perfect functionality might be like my iPhone, with artificial intelligence suggestions for chords as I type. Here are some examples how this new chord editor window might work: I type FMa and it underlines in red, and presents F, FMaj7, FMaj9, FMaj9#11etc. I type FBaj7 and press Enter, and it underlines in red, giving me an opportunity to be edited. It could say, "Chord type not supported" and even give me some suggestions I could click on to fix the entry. I type FMaj7#11 and press Enter. It would underline in red, say the chord is constructed correctly but is a chord type not supported by BIAB. It would not only suggest FMaj9#11, but also put up a green message about creating a chord shortcut that would make this replacement automatic in the future. And while typing a chord, the editing window to do this is large, centered in the top area of the screen so as not to cover any of the chord sheet, and colored with suitable contrast. Make sense? BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293025 04/27/15 12:36 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,808 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,808 Pensacola, Florida	Or better yet, you just see what you are typing in the chord cell while you are typing it, well, in the chord cell (much like in a spreadsheet program). John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293026 04/27/15 12:42 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,460 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,460 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Yes, that part was assumed, but you're right. I was thinking it might be nice to have the data entry area up above the chord sheet, since we want it larger and perhaps the chord you want to type is already somewhere else; I was thinking the chord sheet should not be obscured in any way. Here's another example: I type HMaj7. The new BIAB chord edit window flags it, recognizes the error, and presents a list of the twelve tones I might have meant, even using the key signature to present the proper enharmonic spelling (A# rather than Bb, say). Now, that's an intelligent editor I could love. But as I say, this is a 'perfect world' suggestion. Last edited by Matt Finley; 04/27/15 12:49 AM. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Matt Finley #293036 04/27/15 02:00 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,032 Melbourne, Australia	Matt Great ideas. Are you heading straight over to the wishlist, or writing to support direct? Trev BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293041 04/27/15 02:17 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 2,270 L Lloyd S Veteran
Lloyd S Veteran L Joined: May 2001 Posts: 2,270	Matt wrote: "The perfect functionality might be like my iPhone, with artificial intelligence suggestions for chords as I type." I WOULD NOT want that functionality unless it was an option I could turn off. For me, those "auto complete" functions are simply a nuisance. I thought I had added the "white letters on a light background" issue to the Wishlist some time ago, but I can't seem to find it. I like jford's idea of seeing what you type, right in the cell. If not, then Matt's "warning" or "error" message seems more suitable than just ignoring a wrongly entered chord. LLOYD S

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293043 04/27/15 02:27 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 457 Catonsville, Maryland, USA Bob_B Journeyman
Bob_B Journeyman Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 457 Catonsville, Maryland, USA	I agree with Matt's suggestion for chord error detection/correction. I also find that chord window to the right of the chorus # window could be better, with more contrast and a larger size. Bob Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/BobBelas

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Lloyd S #293044 04/27/15 02:33 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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floyd jane Veteran Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 12,800 Florida	Originally Posted By: Lloyd S I WOULD NOT want that functionality unless it was an option I could turn off. For me, those "auto complete" functions are simply a nuisance. I agree with Lloyd on this - a feature that you could turn off... Have to tell you... I'm glad I "flush this out of the bushes" (Ctrl-F2).... I'm in heaven! over having this ability! Who knew???? Something to note.... You have to hit the ENTER key after editing a cell (in the new-found edit feature) for the change to "take". If you click on the next cell without hitting ENTER, the change does no happen.... 150+ Songs produced using BIAB RealTracks And 50 more... and some more...

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293046 04/27/15 02:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,460 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,460 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Yes, optional would always be good. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293143 04/27/15 12:29 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jazzmammal Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,697 Redondo Beach, Ca.	I've asked for the ability to type directly in the cell every year to no avail. I completely agree with Ron, that little box is useless and I don't even try to look at it. I just type what I want by feel and then wait until it shows up in the chord cell to see if I got it right or not. It's such an obvious thing, there must be some fundamental reason why it can't be changed. Bob Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293322 04/28/15 07:05 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 216 Mesa country Central New Mexic... Ron Becker OP Apprentice
OP Ron Becker Apprentice Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 216 Mesa country Central New Mexic...	Well That's a bunch of good stuff to digest. I was after seeing what I was entering but it certainly could be right in the chord cell. Thanks for all the great answers everyone. I'm heading over to the request list also. This seeming oversight brings up a subject better addresses in the kicking and screaming area. Ron `15 Audiophile, Toshiba17", 3Mhz, 4gig ram, 500gig HD, Win7, Tascam 122mkII interface, Tascam 16 track 8 buss recording mixer, 2 Avalon747sps,CAD VX2 mic, AKG C1000s, mac and Digital Performer.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed jazzmammal #293344 04/28/15 11:08 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,492 Schleswig-Holstein, Germany GHinCH Expert
GHinCH Expert Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,492 Schleswig-Holstein, Germany	Originally Posted By: jazzmammal It's such an obvious thing, there must be some fundamental reason why it can't be changed. Fundamental reason: It works. It could be improved. But it works the way it is. Don't touch it. We don't have the time. We got other stuff to fix. It works. \|\|: :\|\| Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293364 04/29/15 01:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,808 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,808 Pensacola, Florida	Seems to me that if you can hit CTRL-F2 and type in the box directly, why can't you just do it by default? Also, the color of the entry box at the top needs to be changed. The white text on the off-blue background is very difficult to read. Probably why folks aren't even noticing it on the screen. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed jford #293387 04/29/15 03:32 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,199 Scotland George Nelson Expert
George Nelson Expert Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,199 Scotland	Hi John, I agree. Also when you have pressed CTRL-F2 it would be nice if you could TAB to the next cell (keeping the CTRL-F2 fuction) to continue chord input. George Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2024 1111, Realband 2024 i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293394 04/29/15 04:33 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,808 Pensacola, Florida	Of course, if we could just edit in the chord grid, the box above becomes unnecessary. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed GHinCH #293474 04/29/15 11:33 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,697 Redondo Beach, Ca. jazzmammal Veteran
jazzmammal Veteran Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,697 Redondo Beach, Ca.	Originally Posted By: GHinCH Originally Posted By: jazzmammal It's such an obvious thing, there must be some fundamental reason why it can't be changed. Fundamental reason: It works. It could be improved. But it works the way it is. Don't touch it. We don't have the time. We got other stuff to fix. It works. \|\|: :\|\| No it doesn't, that's what we're all complaining about. Are you saying you can read what's in that tiny box easily? All I can say then is good for you, nobody else can. Being able to edit directly in the chord cells has been a wish list item since I first started posting here. Failing that then make that box twice it's size and change that light blue background. Bob Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Ron Becker #293560 04/30/15 02:01 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 647 Burlington, Ontario, Canada D Dave Journeyman
Dave Journeyman D Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 647 Burlington, Ontario, Canada	I can't say I have ever bothered to use it. The chord grid box works just fine; it's bigger; and it's easy to see. I would vote to eliminate the little box altogether as it is just another duplication of function. BIAB for Windows Version 2019 (643) Windows 10 (1909)

Re: The window where chord entry typing is almost displayed Dave #293565 04/30/15 02:23 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,317 Hamlin NY	I don't use it because I can't see it! Chord entry is one if not the most important thing one does in BiaB. This input should be emphasized and not hidden in a ultra small dark window. These are my views and I approve this message. I think my wife has started to show the first signs of dementia. She said she can't remember what she ever saw in me! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

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