Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Lawrie Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Saw this yesterday and hadda share it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvUBQWK0w4

While it should be possible to actually do something like this I reckon there's something fishy about this video - but I just can't pick it for sure.

I do think the pool should have at least flexed... If it's the same as ones I've seen of that shape, it's only a relatively soft plastic.


--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya laugh --=--
You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
Off-Topic
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
Yes, very amazing.
I agree, my instinct tells me that you'd need a computer the size of NASA's to compute the exact trajectory (plus an enormous amount of data including terrain map, slidiness of the material, body weight of the slider, wind speeds, etc. etc.) so as to place the pool in the precise spot needed to avoid what would surely have been certain death for the guy in the event of an error. So, 100% fake. I see the comments attribute the fakery to Microsoft. Infuriating, because I can't "see the join" !


Songs web site
YouTube Channel
BIAB 2019
Cakewalk by BandLab
Studio One 4
Off-Topic
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
My point about trajectory calculations is amply illustrated at 3:05 on this nearby video:
Another Slide


Songs web site
YouTube Channel
BIAB 2019
Cakewalk by BandLab
Studio One 4
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Nah! Perfectly possible and the pool did flex. The extreme sports people in skiing countries (note that this is in a skiing area) wouldn't dream of faking something like this. Nuts! But amazing all the same...


Follow That Dream

Sam
Karaoke King

--------------------

Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
Off-Topic
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,342
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,342
Sorry Sam, just some creative movie-editing.
Click this link for the truth (for it is out there....)

Last edited by Mike sings; 08/18/09 03:57 AM.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Well, its very well done


Follow That Dream

Sam
Karaoke King

--------------------

Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Lawrie Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Quote:

Nah! Perfectly possible and the pool did flex.





I agree that it should be possible to actually do this, but I don't know too many people that would.

WRT pool flex, I respectfully disagree - I carefully studied thos frames as well as the poor resolution would allow and I'm convinced there was no pool flex. However there is some water splash that does look like a bit of flex.


--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya laugh --=--
You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 479
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 479
Its just physics. If you know the initial trajectory angle and speed, and the terrain, and ignore air resistance, the point of impact can be easily determined on the back of a napkin. Things like air resistance can be taken into account by trial runs (dead pig?). By dousing the slide just prior to the event will lead to consistent initial conditions. Judging by the body dynamics of the nut, I'd guess he's skilled at this sort of thing (diving?) and a cool cat. It would be interesting to see what was done prior to all this - How was it fine tuned? How many now-dead divers went before him?

One thing that does seem fishy to me is that the target pool seems to be sitting on a wood support with hard, sharp corners exposed. I would think that anyone who would devise such an event would not let that happen. Or maybe it's all fake.


kelso

Dell Desktop XPS 8100 W10 HomePrem/64 / Core i5 760 (quad, 2.8GHz) / 8GB DDR3 / 1 TB SATA / ViewSonic VG2428wm / EMU1616 PCI / Event ASP6 Active Monitors / BIAB 2019 64 bit (609) / Cakewalk
Off-Topic
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,426
Quote:

... Or maybe it's all fake.



Quite, see the link in Mike's post above.


Songs web site
YouTube Channel
BIAB 2019
Cakewalk by BandLab
Studio One 4
Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
The video is a hoax.

The beginning is real, they stopped the guy with a rope before the ramp, the airborne part is animated. They accomplished the splash by throwing the guy into the pool. It was then pieced together to get the final product.

It's a German Microsoft add.

Pretty cool though. I've watched it several times. It's a hoot!

Bob

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Quote:

Its just physics. If you know the initial trajectory angle and speed, and the terrain, and ignore air resistance, the point of impact can be easily determined on the back of a napkin.



Be invited to the following experiment:

Device some ideal pool billiard table without holes, just bouncing boundaries, and mount some circular reflecting or bouncing obstacle right in its center. Now shoot one billiard ball such that it hits the circularly bouncing obstacle at times. You may easily determine the trajectory of such an (ideal) billiard ball - after all, it's just basic physics. Now stop the billiard ball and shoot it again with the exact same initial conditions as the first time, up to a tiny lateral displacement of, say, one electron diameter. You may easily determine the trajectory of this second billiard ball, which at the beginning is virtuallly identical to the trajectory of the first ball. You may be surprised, though, that after some 10 bounces, say, these two billiard balls follow thoroughly different trajectories. It's just physics, 'ya know.


Martin
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
So, lets talk about the Fourth Dimension -Time Travel... That too is physics, is it not?

Suppose I could travel back in time, say 40 years, and give myself some life changing advice. Would it make a difference? I doubt it


Follow That Dream

Sam
Karaoke King

--------------------

Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Quote:

Suppose I could travel back in time, say 40 years, and give myself some life changing advice. Would it make a difference? I doubt it


Depends on the scale ... People at Betelgeuse likely won't see zip difference, even if earth would be blown away. But then, there are those Vogons ...


Martin
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Lawrie Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
G'day Martin,
Quote:


Be invited to the following experiment:





Kelso would have been better advised to describe it as ballistics - a pretty well understood branch of science, as it should be considering all the work various war efforts have put into its study. Do the calculations on your phone's calculator... Well maybe it'd be easier with some ballistics software but it ain't really that hard, surely you remember calculating trajectories at high school.

Unless there were fairly strong winds the only real variable would be the friction between the "projectile" and the slide. Get this consistent so the launch velocity (read muzzle velocity) is always the same and the rest would fall into place fairly easily.

I reckon your billiard table analogy doesn't hold up as a comparison because there are no bounces to take into consideration.

All that said, the video is certainly a fake as demonstrated in another post. Possible? YES. Would I do it? No, but if I did I'd really want to work up to it, and that pool would need to be set up a LOT better, actually I think I'd prefer a platform of stacked empty cardboard boxes covered with a tarpaulin - I like soft landings.


--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya laugh --=--
You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Personally, I would prefer doing it with 10,000 helium balloons covered with tarpaulin. A light and airy landing, guaranteed to make me laugh!


Follow That Dream

Sam
Karaoke King

--------------------

Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 222
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 222
This sounds like a job for the mythbusters.


JBlatz
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217
.
>>>>...So, lets talk about the Fourth Dimension -Time Travel... That too is physics, is it not? Suppose I could travel back in time...>>>

No, time travel is not physics. Time travel would be in violation of Newtons fundamental laws of thermodynamics, upon which all of the science of physics is based.

.


Flatfoot sez: Call me when 'Talent-in-a-Box' is ready to ship! -- [8{>

Got some tunes on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/user/flatfoot50
.
My BiaB lesson site:
http://jdwolfe0.wixsite.com/learnbiab
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics support current thought and theory about the Time Domain.

It does *not* obviate the possibilities but may describe limitations.

The first thing one has to wrap around is that Time is a dimension just the same as Space (Length, Width, Depth, Time) -- or as Einstein famously quipped, "Some of us know that Time is really but a very stubborn illusion."

Those in Physics and Math have discovered that there are two kinds of people who can wrap their minds around this subject -- Graduate Level Mathematicians and Little Children. If that sounds vaguely familiar, somewhere in a great book it says virtually the same thing: "Be like a child..."

But I think God invented Time so that everything wouldn't happen all at once. <G>


--Mac

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Lawrie Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Quote:


But I think God invented Time so that everything wouldn't happen all at once. <G>




This is pretty good Mac, I plan to file the serial numbers off and use it...:)


--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya laugh --=--
You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,444
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,444
Quote:

So, lets talk about the Fourth Dimension -Time Travel... That too is physics, is it not?

Suppose I could travel back in time, say 40 years, and give myself some life changing advice. Would it make a difference? I doubt it




But Sam, would you listen to yourself??


Cheers,
Keith
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!

We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!

Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.

Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles

Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)

And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.

You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
  • Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
  • Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
  • Playable RealTracks Set 4
  • RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
  • SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
  • 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
  • Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
  • Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
  • RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,390
Posts778,608
Members39,643
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
The Jam Shop, Hyke, bestbushcraft, bokane65, Intelligent Crypto
39,642 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 140
WaoBand 115
DC Ron 111
rsdean 86
dcuny 82
Today's Birthdays
rockin
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5