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Saw this yesterday and hadda share it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvUBQWK0w4While it should be possible to actually do something like this I reckon there's something fishy about this video - but I just can't pick it for sure.  I do think the pool should have at least flexed... If it's the same as ones I've seen of that shape, it's only a relatively soft plastic.
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Yes, very amazing.
I agree, my instinct tells me that you'd need a computer the size of NASA's to compute the exact trajectory (plus an enormous amount of data including terrain map, slidiness of the material, body weight of the slider, wind speeds, etc. etc.) so as to place the pool in the precise spot needed to avoid what would surely have been certain death for the guy in the event of an error. So, 100% fake. I see the comments attribute the fakery to Microsoft. Infuriating, because I can't "see the join" !
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My point about trajectory calculations is amply illustrated at 3:05 on this nearby video: Another Slide 
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Nah! Perfectly possible and the pool did flex. The extreme sports people in skiing countries (note that this is in a skiing area) wouldn't dream of faking something like this. Nuts! But amazing all the same...
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Sorry Sam, just some creative movie-editing. Click this link for the truth (for it is out there....)
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Well, its very well done 
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Nah! Perfectly possible and the pool did flex.
I agree that it should be possible to actually do this, but I don't know too many people that would.
WRT pool flex, I respectfully disagree - I carefully studied thos frames as well as the poor resolution would allow and I'm convinced there was no pool flex. However there is some water splash that does look like a bit of flex.
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
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Its just physics. If you know the initial trajectory angle and speed, and the terrain, and ignore air resistance, the point of impact can be easily determined on the back of a napkin. Things like air resistance can be taken into account by trial runs (dead pig?). By dousing the slide just prior to the event will lead to consistent initial conditions. Judging by the body dynamics of the nut, I'd guess he's skilled at this sort of thing (diving?) and a cool cat. It would be interesting to see what was done prior to all this - How was it fine tuned? How many now-dead divers went before him?
One thing that does seem fishy to me is that the target pool seems to be sitting on a wood support with hard, sharp corners exposed. I would think that anyone who would devise such an event would not let that happen. Or maybe it's all fake.
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... Or maybe it's all fake.
Quite, see the link in Mike's post above.
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The video is a hoax.
The beginning is real, they stopped the guy with a rope before the ramp, the airborne part is animated. They accomplished the splash by throwing the guy into the pool. It was then pieced together to get the final product.
It's a German Microsoft add.
Pretty cool though. I've watched it several times. It's a hoot!
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Its just physics. If you know the initial trajectory angle and speed, and the terrain, and ignore air resistance, the point of impact can be easily determined on the back of a napkin.
Be invited to the following experiment:
Device some ideal pool billiard table without holes, just bouncing boundaries, and mount some circular reflecting or bouncing obstacle right in its center. Now shoot one billiard ball such that it hits the circularly bouncing obstacle at times. You may easily determine the trajectory of such an (ideal) billiard ball - after all, it's just basic physics. Now stop the billiard ball and shoot it again with the exact same initial conditions as the first time, up to a tiny lateral displacement of, say, one electron diameter. You may easily determine the trajectory of this second billiard ball, which at the beginning is virtuallly identical to the trajectory of the first ball. You may be surprised, though, that after some 10 bounces, say, these two billiard balls follow thoroughly different trajectories. It's just physics, 'ya know.
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So, lets talk about the Fourth Dimension -Time Travel... That too is physics, is it not? Suppose I could travel back in time, say 40 years, and give myself some life changing advice. Would it make a difference? I doubt it 
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Suppose I could travel back in time, say 40 years, and give myself some life changing advice. Would it make a difference? I doubt it
Depends on the scale ... People at Betelgeuse likely won't see zip difference, even if earth would be blown away. But then, there are those Vogons ...
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G'day Martin, Quote:
Be invited to the following experiment:
Kelso would have been better advised to describe it as ballistics - a pretty well understood branch of science, as it should be considering all the work various war efforts have put into its study. Do the calculations on your phone's calculator... Well maybe it'd be easier with some ballistics software but it ain't really that hard, surely you remember calculating trajectories at high school.
Unless there were fairly strong winds the only real variable would be the friction between the "projectile" and the slide. Get this consistent so the launch velocity (read muzzle velocity) is always the same and the rest would fall into place fairly easily.
I reckon your billiard table analogy doesn't hold up as a comparison because there are no bounces to take into consideration.
All that said, the video is certainly a fake as demonstrated in another post. Possible? YES. Would I do it? No, but if I did I'd really want to work up to it, and that pool would need to be set up a LOT better, actually I think I'd prefer a platform of stacked empty cardboard boxes covered with a tarpaulin - I like soft landings.
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Personally, I would prefer doing it with 10,000 helium balloons covered with tarpaulin. A light and airy landing, guaranteed to make me laugh!
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
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This sounds like a job for the mythbusters.
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>>>>...So, lets talk about the Fourth Dimension -Time Travel... That too is physics, is it not? Suppose I could travel back in time...>>>
No, time travel is not physics. Time travel would be in violation of Newtons fundamental laws of thermodynamics, upon which all of the science of physics is based.
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1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics support current thought and theory about the Time Domain.
It does *not* obviate the possibilities but may describe limitations.
The first thing one has to wrap around is that Time is a dimension just the same as Space (Length, Width, Depth, Time) -- or as Einstein famously quipped, "Some of us know that Time is really but a very stubborn illusion."
Those in Physics and Math have discovered that there are two kinds of people who can wrap their minds around this subject -- Graduate Level Mathematicians and Little Children. If that sounds vaguely familiar, somewhere in a great book it says virtually the same thing: "Be like a child..."
But I think God invented Time so that everything wouldn't happen all at once. <G>
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But I think God invented Time so that everything wouldn't happen all at once. <G>
This is pretty good Mac, I plan to file the serial numbers off and use it...:)
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So, lets talk about the Fourth Dimension -Time Travel... That too is physics, is it not?
Suppose I could travel back in time, say 40 years, and give myself some life changing advice. Would it make a difference? I doubt it
But Sam, would you listen to yourself??
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