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when a minor chord is entered, BIAB RT's play a major chord, no matter how many times you re-gen the part... That would kind of defeat the intention and purpose of the program. 
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Pax-eterna, since this has never happened to me, I suspect the problem might be the RealTracks you use in a genre that is different from those I use. Please give some examples of specific RealTrack names/numbers so we can write a test song and see. There have been a few cases where we discovered that a RealTrack plays the wrong chord, we reported it to PG Music Support, and the next patch fixed it.
If you want to continue this topic, it probably deserves its own thread.
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Pax eterna,
Also check that tracks are not frozen. If they were frozen when a major chord was generated, this will stay in place when the chord is changed to minor. Freezing overrides.
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Yes, definitely check for freeze. This sure sounds as though this is the most likely cause.
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This is not an issue with elastique, but most like a problem with selecting the wrong chord (as has been mentioned). All elastique does is stretch the already recorded audio to the correct root. A major chord stays a major chord and a minor chord stays a minor chord. The notes within the chord don't change, because it is already recorded.
Definitely report this to PGMusic at support@pgmusic.com (and reference this thread). Be sure to indicate which RealTracks this happens to, and you may want to send your SGU file along, as well, for them to try it out using the same file.
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Thanks guys...no it's not anything to do with freezing. Next time it happens I will note the RT and post. I only really use BIAB for bed tracks for Sonar processing. And then only drums and guitars mostly. One thing is it SEEMS to be mostly happening with acoustic guitar parts, finger pick and strum.
Not sure how it can be a "selecting the wrong chord" issue?? I mean the chord progression is the chord progression, yes?
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This is a simplistic explanation, but as I understand it, it's possible that it's selecting a wrong chord for RealTracks, because what you get from RealTracks is based on a table (internal to the program) with offset values to what's where within the long RealTracks audio file. When you want an Eb chord, there is a table that contains the offsets into the RealTracks audio file of all the Eb chord riffs (and BIAB will choose one of them). If that offset got entered incorrectly, then you could end up with the wrong chord. PGMusic has had to correct a few of those occasionally. I suspect that's what is happening.
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This is a simplistic explanation, but as I understand it, it's possible that it's selecting a wrong chord for RealTracks, because what you get from RealTracks is based on a table (internal to the program) with offset values to what's where within the long RealTracks audio file. When you want an Eb chord, there is a table that contains the offsets into the RealTracks audio file of all the Eb chord riffs (and BIAB will choose one of them). If that offset got entered incorrectly, then you could end up with the wrong chord. PGMusic has had to correct a few of those occasionally. I suspect that's what is happening. ahhh thanks jford, I get it now. hahaha, yeah with me, simplistic is the only way to go 
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