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Mac, You jogged my memory from wayyyyyyyyyyyy back. http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/Audio/interlv/Freeware.htmAnd you can do a whole folder of songs and it fixed everything. THE HANDY DANDY ANALOGX INTERLEAVE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ File interleaving does the exact opposite of a what a disk defragmentor does (which puts files in sequential order)... So why on Earth would you want to in essence 'fragment' a harddrive? Simple, when dealing with digital audio, it needs to read a little chunk at a time from each file, so in this special case (ie; multi-track digital audio), harddrive's fragmentation (the good kind) can actually increase performance! And with that in mind, introducing AnalogX Interleave! AnalogX Interleave is a great utility for anyone who does hardcore multitrack audio... It allows you to take files which you may have backed up or defragged at some point, and basically 're-frag', or interleave them back into their optimal state! It allows you to select any number of files, and interleave them in one large chunk - you can even vary the interleave factor for each file independently. Adding files couldn't be simpler, just select the files you want to interleave (in the proper order, from the Windows explorer), and drag them onto the Interleave dialog, doublecheck to make sure they are set up properly, select the destination directory (must be different from the source), hit the Interleave button, and away you go! You really only have two options, one is to vary the size of the header of the file, and the other is to vary the size of the contents.... Most file types (or programs) write out files in nearly the same fashion every time; so if you're using a Paris .PAF file, the header will always be 2048 bytes in size. WAV files are a little bit trickier, but for the most part they almost always are 44 bytes; for any other formats, you'll need to contact the manufacturer of the program you're using, and find out how they store it (don't contact me, I don't know). Next, is the content size - this is just basically how many bytes are being used by the sample; so if you're using a 16bit file, chances are that the content size is 2 bytes; if it's a 24 or 32 bit file, chances are the content size is 4 bytes. Once again, this varies from format to format, so check with your manufacturer to find out how they do it. Here's a couple of the more common sets: File Type Desc Header Size Content Size Paris .PAF 16bit audio 2048 2 Paris .PAF 24bit audio 2048 4 Wave .WAV 8bit audio 44 1 Wave .WAV 16bit audio 44 2 Wave .WAV 24bit audio 44 4 Wave .WAV 32bit audio 44 4 I would like to thank Brian Tankersley for motivating me to finally write this super useful utility, a must for just about anyone doing digital audio or video.
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That good old analogx code may fix this by undoing what you did to the files when defragging.
Could be faster than using PT's Consolidate on each song.
Might not be as great of a job as PT would do, might be better, dunno about that.
I tend to save Analogx interleave for use on only problem project files, I don't recommend blanket use of it all the time on everything ya got. Let the host program do what it likes to do with the files, but the interleave code can solve problems like the one you apparently have now.
Interestingly, I've never had to use it on the smaller projects like you are doing, but have found it to be useful for those projects using the big multichannel input soundcards sometimes. 16 tracks being recorded at once, or 8 tracks being recorded at once while 10 play back, stuff like that.
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See we keep reading Defrag, defrag when in essance this is actually a problem. I had forgotten about this until I read the above Read Me file that comes with the program.
With faster drives it's probably not an issue.
I'm just letting it grind its way through the whole folder of 150 songs. It's easier then redoing one at a time. from then on I'll just let the program consolidate feature do its thing.
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See we keep reading Defrag, defrag when in essance this is actually a problem.
The savvy op knows that defragging the drive is a good thing, though. There are many other files and such that *should* be put into contiguous order on that drive.
It is just the .wav or probably hidden and categorized as .raw files associated with a multitrack audio project that benefit from the Interleaving. If you know where those are stored, you can indeed and should indeed still defrag your drives regularly, but then go ahead and apply the Analogx Interleave to the folders where those files only are stored.
A defrag program that can be told which files and folders to defrag and which to NOT defrag can be a good thing for the DAW user. "Defraggler" comes to mind and is what I use. That is why I let Analogx Interleave fall by the wayside with my Win98 DAW machine way back when.
Avoid the "digital" mindthought about these things: "1 or zero, yes or no, good or bad."
The reality often lies with knowing what to do and when to do it instead.
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what was the full dpc report ??
how many "us" reported etc etc. ??
if your getting red spikes that tells you something is amiss
and needs to be addressed/nailed down.
are the red spikes at the same intervals ??
regularly spaced ?? or random ??
if you can post a pic somewhere of the dpc screen mate.
it might simply be that the video tasks are consuming certain resource levels.
thus the sticky result.
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Very true. Yes I agree I should have know to not defrag these files. I have Defragler for that reason. I'm not a newbie but for the sake of the newbies or less experienced this point needs to be made clear. Mac I actually think that once your over 55 like me you start at the beginning knowledge wise. To many file deletes & fragmented files between the ears. 
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Sorry bout the defrag advice Silvertones, it has never been an issue here, and has helped with some things.
Live and learn. Like I said earlier, that is why I am still here - to learn
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Well Interlieve didn't help after all. I'm starting to go nuts here.
Manning,
I figured out the tool.
By disabling the wireless network card & the acpi battery controll everything dropped way down in the green with thehighest value of 59us. I let it run about 5 min like that. Stayed right down.
Still stutters like crazy though. I think it's fixed and it comes back. I'm gonna go through the consolidate again and leave the disabled things as they are.
I shall return.
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...Mac I actually think that once your over 55 like me you start at the beginning knowledge wise....
Tell me about it!
Same here.
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Hi John - there's a lot of hi-tech going on here and I have no idea about some of it.  But I have experienced this in PT when I have asked the program to run too many intensive plugins. I have only 700 PIII with 384 ram at the moment. You say you 12 RTs going - maybe try it without the plugins and see - didn't see it mentioned earlier. Cheers
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Ian,
No plugins!
Doing a little experiment with Interleave. I reread the Read Me file and I might have had the wrong settings. It has to do with header and content size. I set to the recommended for .wav files however it was mentioned that this info may need to be acquired from the program vendor. PG in this case. I'm juking 6 songs round and round to see what happens with the continuous load unload.
I am somewhat disappointed Jeff hasn't popped in here for a comment. With well over 100 posts.
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I'm starting to go nuts here.
I've only skimmed the thread, so maybe this was mentioned, but FWIW: Control Panel=>System=>Advanced Tab=>Performance=>Settings. Then check out the Visual Effects and Advanced tabs. There are parameters here that I think can modify video refresh rates. I see your other DAW apps have no issue, but RB could be programmed less efficiently, such that the performance tipping point can be leveraged by these settings.
A thought. -Ron
BTW, interesting app posted by Manning. Complementary ones are here. Looks like Microsoft liked the Sysinternals apps so much, they bought them out.
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I MAY have found the answer. Maybe someone can experiment and see if it's reproduable. It has to do with the way I've created all of the songs.
First I loaded the completed .MGU file into RB. Then using track remove I removed all of the first 8 tracks, BB Tracks, except the piano. I then added RT in one at a time. I convert the piano to a wav file and then remove the piano midi part. I've now removed all of the 8 BB tracks with the track remove command.
If I open one of these songs it (Video) stutters. If I use the command after loading the song " Make first 8 tracks BB tracks" the stuttering stops. I've used a blank style.
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If I then convert al BB, Blue Tracks, To regular tracks and then remove them it seems to be fine. It SEEMS to be messing up the song file to use the remove track when it's still blue. Tommorrow.
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re dpc...ok your in the green zone now..
thats good.
now we are getting somewhere.
some people have been able to get below 10us.
but your report now is pretty decent.
as to your video problem...
please could you post a pic somewhere of
win task manager when you get the sticky vid problem.
the dialog that shows resource useage. cpu/memory etc.
ie...keep task mgr running while rb is running.
it would be usefull to see what individual task resource useage is when
you get the sticky vid problem.
also whose video chipset is in your toshiba ??
also it would be usefull if you posted a pic of your rb
audio preference settings.
prefs>>audio tab.
also something to try.
it solved a prob for me once.
(might or might not work.)
notice in rb audio prefs...
TRACK BUFFER SIZE.
try various settings mate.
tell me if the 32768 setting makes any difference.
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Changing track buffers didn't help. I think it's just a case that something about this lappy and this program are not compatible.
---See screenshot a couple posts below---
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No sideways scroller bar appearing here so I can't read this anymore. What's more, if I decrease the magnitude from 100% to 75%, it still won't show what is to the right. For example, Quote:
Changing track buffers didn't help. I think it's just a case that something about this lappy and this progr
That's as far right as it goes
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yeh i cant see the full table n ram useage etc either.
please post the pic on a free download site.
retired puter engr....powertracks on amd......NICE !
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That is alot easier to see. Thanks  What does the 'Detailed Information' window at the bottom show if you click on the line on the right hand side that ends "PG Music Inc"?
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