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I find that I am no longer able to generate a Real Track on the strings channel, probably since the latest build of BIAB 2009. If I select any Real Track to use on that channel it will not generate, and the song begins playing with the strings channel still empty and not highlighted. If I open a song file made in early July (with an earlier version of BIAB 2009) that used the strings channel for a Real Track, it plays normally. Rebooting and relaunching does not solve the problem. The computer is a 2009 Mac Pro running 10.5.8, BIAB is 2009.5, build 7. Has anyone else seen this?
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I have seen it recently on the melody and soloist channels, when I try to select a different instrument. It appears to load but won't generate.
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Thanks, I'll look at that.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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I haven't been able to duplicate any problem like that. Just generated a bunch of songs, with RealTracks on Strings (and Melody and Soloist). Please let me know if there's a way to duplicate it.
For example, if you boot the program (or choose File-New), add a RealTracks to the string channel, and press PLAY, does the issue happen?
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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I haven't been able to duplicate any problem like that. Just generated a bunch of songs, with RealTracks on Strings (and Melody and Soloist). Please let me know if there's a way to duplicate it.
For example, if you boot the program (or choose File-New), add a RealTracks to the string channel, and press PLAY, does the issue happen?
I couldn't remember what song file I had been working on when this appeared, so I opened several random files that I had recently worked with and also could not see a problem. But I finally found and opened a file that had shown the problem (there may have been others) and sure enough, it is still there. The file has Real Tracks on 6 channels (bass, piano, drums, guitar, melody, and soloist) that generate and play normally, but something prevents the strings channel from generating the Real Track that the drop-down claims it has. The behavior is exactly as described in my original post. I know of nothing that is different in this file from all the others here that behave normally.
If you want I'll send the file as is -- just let me know what email address to use.
Thanks for your attention.
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>> but something prevents the strings channel from generating the Real Track that the drop-down claims it has. The usual cause of this would be setting the track to "Disable RealTracks for this track" in the RealTracks Picker dialog. If that isn't the case, please forward file to support@pgmusic.com, with a request to forward the file to me. Thanks
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Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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>> The usual cause of this would be setting the track to "Disable RealTracks for this track" in the RealTracks Picker dialog.
The 'Disable RT...' box is not checked for the channel in question, so I'll send the file.
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>> but something prevents the strings channel from generating the Real Track that the drop-down claims it has.
The usual cause of this would be setting the track to "Disable RealTracks for this track" in the RealTracks Picker dialog.
If that isn't the case, please forward file to support@pgmusic.com, with a request to forward the file to me.
Thanks
The file in question was sent to you 8/31.
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Yes, we've received it. thanks. The strings track has been disabled for that track, so that MIDI or Realtracks won't play. Choose File-Save w/patches to rectify the problem, and the track will then play fine.
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Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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The strings track has been disabled for that track, so that MIDI or Realtracks won't play. Choose File-Save w/patches to rectify the problem, and the track will then play fine.
Thanks, that does fix it. I see that unchecking a track box in the Save With Patches... dialog will disable that track. I don't know how this particular track got that way, since I had never explored that facet of the app. But I wonder, is there is an advantage to disabling a track rather than leaving it empty or muting it? Incidentally, I have seen some instability when using the Save With Patches... dialog. With the latest build and OS 10.5.8 or 10.6 the application has sometimes crashed when exiting the dialog with the Save Song As button.
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But I wonder, is there is an advantage to disabling a track rather than leaving it empty or muting it?
Muting a track is global. For example, if you mute a trackname, then load the next song, that track will still be muted.
Using the Save with Patches window and not checking a track is saved with the particular songfile, which is nice for going through a folder of songs such as on a live gig or practice session and you may want a certain track not heard in one song, but need to hear that track in the next and don't want to take a chance on forgetting to unmute that track when the song loads and plays, not nice on the live performance at all.
With the MIDI styles, you can't leave a certain track empty if the style loads with that track. Next time the song is loaded or next time you hit Play, which regenerates the song, the track will come back.
--Mac
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