|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 26 |
I want to thank you all for access to all your experience and knowledge. This is my problem. I have been using BIB and like it very much and I like to export the waves into reaper. This has been working fine.
For some reason, and I may have inadvertently changed some setting, now when I try to export the 8 bar chorus as I have alway done in the past, to individual wave files, the export process starts and never ends and when I interrupt the process, the export file is several gigs large....
The process has been successful and now it isn't....
I have tried fooling with various settings but I am not sure where to start.
Could it have anything to do with mixing midi and real tracks?
I like Reaper because I can import several tracks at once.
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Tbudw
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,454
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,454 |
I don't know Reaper so I can't help with your question. Whenever someone posts that something used to work and now it doesn't, it leads to the follow-up question: what changed?
Have you updated Windows, Reaper, or BIAB?
Have you contacted PG Music Support to ask this? Have you posted on a Reaper user forum, assuming there is one?
Could you please supply some detail: what version of BIAB, what version of Windows, and anything relevant about Reaper.
I'm assuming Reaper must handle MIDI. If it doesn't, then your speculation makes sense. It would be easy to test that by trying an all Real-Tracks BIAB song.
Good luck!
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Tbudw, Some questions to help the forum get an insight into your system and that might help you solve the problem... 1. What version of BIAB do you have? (for example Windows version 2013) 2. Has anything changed with you computer system recently? (for example have you recently changed computers, operating system, soundcard, antivirus software, etc. 3. Have you installed the latest update for the program found at the link below? http://www.pgmusic.com/support.htm4. Have you tried resetting to factory defaults? Reset is found under the Opt menu and is a good place to start. It will reset your audio/midi setup so it might pay to take a screen shot of that before you reset (or save the configuration file if you have a later version of BIAB). This is always a good place to begin solving problems. Exit and restart BIAB after resetting so that the changes can take effect. 5. Does this happen with every song or one song in particular? 6. Have you checked to see if a chord might have accidentally been added to the last bar? 7. How many choruses is your song set to? Try changing this to "1" and see if it makes a difference. Hope one of these suggestions helps. Noel P.S. I use Reaper and it works fine with BIAB.
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 26 |
Thanks for the response.
I am running a dell tower with dual processor 64x, 16G Ram, Windows 10. Everything was working fine. Reaper works great together because I can import all the waves at one shot.
Answer to your questions:
1. Earlier this year I installed BIAB 2016 32x and all was well. Updates are current as of today with 431 I think.
2. No recent hardware changes.
3. See number 1
4. I have not tried resetting to factory defaults but will give it a shot.
5. This is the stumper, does not occur with every song.
6. No hanging chords (or chads)
7. Chorus replays set to 1.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
tbudw
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 26
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 26 |
I probably misstated the problem. The problem is not with Reaper. The problem is getting the export function to export the individual tracks as waves.
I have plenty of horsepower with dell tower 64x, windows 10, BIAB 2016 x32 updated today.
I haven't tried support yet because usually the first question is have you tried the forums.
The problem does not occur with every song. I am wondering if DXi is installed correctly. I might need to go thru that again as I get a "no DXi installed" message when trying to set the DXi up. However, I installed all six dvds directly to the hard drive. I still get that message about coyote. Play back is fine.
The song has a mixture of real tracks and midi. The program is very handy for designing harmonies for vocals. That's another story.
Let me know if you come up. I will contact support as well. I like BIAB for arranging songs and building vocal parts as well. But it is useless to me if I can't get the wave export function back.
Thanks
Tbudw
Thanks for the quick response.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Given that it doesn't happen with every file, it sounds like there is something different in relation to the files and their creation.
Some more questions...
1. Do you use externally created midi from the internet when creating a chord sheet?
2. Do you use ACW (Audio Chord Wizard) to get chords from audio files when creating your chord sheet?
3. If neither of the above, please briefly explain how you create a chord sheet.
4. When you save to WAV have you deactivated the "2 second delay at end" that's found under the "Audio | Render to stereo WAV" options. Doing this has been known to create long audio files occasionally (depending on soundcard).
Something to try...
Select "New" from the File menu. This will load a new worksheet with default settings. This is useful in case the existing worksheet has some form of setting present that you don't know about.
Create an 8 bar, 1 chorus song. Generate and render to wav. What was the outcome?
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199 |
I can't export wav files using the export button either. That process just stalls. I can, however, in PLUGIN mode drag the individual wav files (real drums etc) into REAPER with no hassles at all. Can't do it with Midi files - they don't convert to .wav.
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Ray,
Do you have Coyote WT VST/DXi synth operating or do you used some other software synth?
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,975
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,975 |
Thanks for the response.
I am running a dell tower with dual processor 64x, 16G Ram, Windows 10. Everything was working fine. Reaper works great together because I can import all the waves at one shot.
Answer to your questions:
1. Earlier this year I installed BIAB 2016 32x and all was well. Updates are current as of today with 431 I think.
2. No recent hardware changes.
3. See number 1
4. I have not tried resetting to factory defaults but will give it a shot.
5. This is the stumper, does not occur with every song.
6. No hanging chords (or chads)
7. Chorus replays set to 1.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
tbudw
tbudw, Try updating to build 432.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Thanks Jim,
That completely slipped past me! That's the beauty of a forum like this, what one person misses another can slip in and help out.
I notice the build 433 is now released, too.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199 |
Noel69,
I don't use any software synths. I'll have a look tomorrow to see if Coyote is on the machine. I do know I didn't install it specifically though it may be on the drive as part of a package.
I'll get back to you.
Cheers
rayc
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Ray, That could be the problem. Enter into the preferences and then click on the Midi Driver button. When in these settings, double-check that settings marked yellow below are set the same on your computer.  Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,028
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,028 |
This might be a long shot, but try this:
1: Open the BiaB song in Real Band
2: Save the song (still as a BiaB song) with a different name.
3: Then open the newly saved song in BiaB and try the export to Wav again.
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199 |
Dear Noel96,
I followed your instructions BUT was stymied by the fact that I don't have CoyoteWT or any VST/DXi Syt=nth Settings. I found a VSC/DXi but that didn't work. The system stalled and I could go no further and am, sadly, that dialogue said I will not be able to play any midi until I have a prog it recognises..
Can/should I download CoyoteWT? Would it be on the installation disc for BIAB?
Any thoughts on the next step.
Cheers
rayc
Last edited by rayc; 05/07/16 10:08 PM.
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Ray, Coyote WT comes with Band In A Box. The first thing is to check if you can load Coyote WT. To do this... 1. Enter into Preferences by clicking on the "Prefs" button or "Options | Preferences". 2. Click on the "MIDI Driver" button. 3. Set #1 (MS Wavetable) and #2 (General Midi) as shown on the image below. 4. Activate the two checkboxes I've labelled #3. 5. Click on the button #4 and have a look to see if CoyoteWT is available in the list. If it is, select it and click on OK to exit the setup. All is now ready to go.  If Coyote WT is not available in the list of synths, then it can be installed under the "Help" menu. Simply follow the 1, 2, 3 below to install. Once that's done, repeat steps 1 - 5 above.  Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199 |
Dear Noel,
thank you very much. The screen shots make life so much easier. It Sunday evening in my neck of the woods so I will attempt the changes (with the installation disc in the drive just in case) after work tomorrow.
Thanks in anticipation of an easy resolution.
Cheers
rayc
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Ray, Sunday evening here too! I'm just a little south of you in Melbourne  We're getting quite and Australian collection here on the forums! All the best, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199 |
Noel,
I tried the new steps and was, again, unsuccessful. The only change I didn't make was that I use ASIO & need to keep that constant as, I assume, it'll be an issue when using plugin mode to drag Realtracks into Reaper. I managed to find Coyote etc & almost everything was AOK. When I try to play RealDrums over an imported audio file I only get the count in and then nothing. When I drop RealStyles over the file I get the drums but, naturally enough, the style does mean that there's a lot going on and it's difficult to hear what I need. Is there any way of disengaging Styles or components of styles so that I can hear just drums?
I don't know about South of Melbourne but here, south of Sydney the mornings & nights are cold and the day is only pleasant if out of the shade or wind.
Cheers
ray
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,374 |
Ray,
If you have BIAB set to use an ASIO driver, that is most likely what is causing your problem. ASIO drivers aren't always friendly with audio applications. (I'm presently trying to solve an ASIO issue with a new driver for my soundcard and Reaper.)
Back to your problem...
Change you BIAB audio driver to MME and see if that makes a difference. There is no issue with having BIAB set to use MME and Reaper set to use ASIO. That's my standard setup.
To change BIAB's driver, select "Options | Preferences | Audio" and then select MME for the "Audio Driver Type".
Let us know how you go.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199 |
Noel96,
without you I'd have no clue & the alphabet'd be 1 less.
Since you're using the same basic duality as me I'll change the driver tomorrow (weekend yeah!).
Cheers
rayc
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,768
Posts795,991
Members39,955
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean