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Agreed, Matt.

John, I can't use my current product key with that utility because the Windows program was installed as an OEM copy. That site only accepts full versions. It would seem my only option is a total reinstall from the Synergio PC disk that came with my PC frown.

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Yes, I suspected you had an OEM version based on the price quote you received. But reinstalling 7 isn't your only option: you can purchase Windows 10.


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Sorry, didn't realize that.

I personally would try to go to Windows 10 before doing a new install. The Windows 10 update should write all new O/S files, but preserve your installed apps. You may find you need some new drivers when you are done, but that's easily taken care of. Worst case, you've got an image of your system now and can always get back to where you are.

Ideally, it would be best if we could figure out which files it can't find. Again, maybe looking through some of the log files and see if you can identify it there.


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Hi Rich,

I found the following error logs. Their meaning is a mystery to me!:

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PCA2
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bbw.exe
2016.0.5.431
Band-in-a-Box Application
Band-in-a-Box
PG Music Inc.
200
-1
C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\{fda68bfb-0681-4ff2-8d74-5d2b619c1193}\appcompat.txt C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\Tab4F30.tmp
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6a432745-125d-11e6-935d-485b39a5f9b6
0
0
PCA2
Not available
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bbw.exe
2016.0.2.432
Band-in-a-Box Application
Band-in-a-Box
PG Music Inc.
200
-1
C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\{2ac3c2e2-5f71-4c7a-8e71-a7f8bd30917a}\appcompat.txt C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\TabCF72.tmp
0
80664ad3-1329-11e6-935d-485b39a5f9b6
0

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PCA2
Not available
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bbw.exe
2016.0.2.432
Band-in-a-Box Application
Band-in-a-Box
PG Music Inc.
200
-1
C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\{7890dcdb-3618-4535-a552-df202269cddb}\appcompat.txt C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\Tab9446.tmp
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2942ecb9-1329-11e6-935d-485b39a5f9b6
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0
PCA2
Not available
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bbw.exe
2016.0.2.432
Band-in-a-Box Application
Band-in-a-Box
PG Music Inc.
200
-1
C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\{11de4aac-1165-45c9-9b28-fa7940e0d8ca}\appcompat.txt C:\Users\Lee Batchelor\AppData\Local\Temp\TabC5CD.tmp
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e267f894-10c1-11e6-824f-485b39a5f9b6
0


Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.

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Lee,

In case this is useful... I've just found this post using Google. The event log is similar to yours and occurred with a well known game a user was trying to run.

The problem turned out to be antivirus software and the solution was to put an exception for the startup exe file into the antivirus software. For example, in my antivirus software, I have a section called "Exclusions" and I've added full paths for Realband and BIAB (as shown below).



I've read that you've tried starting the program with your antivirus software disabled but, like Matt, I wonder if maybe a component of it is always in memory.

Also, did you try (i) deactivating the User Account Control and (ii) running in XP compatibility that I mentioned in an earlier post?

Regards,
Noel

P.S. Re User Account Control - it's been known to cause issues periodically and it would be good to rule it out as being the culprit for your problem.


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I also asked about memory resident antivirus. I think he was just overwhelmed with advice and needs time to try all these ideas and answer.


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Indeed! There's a truckload of information to work through when all these posts are added together!


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Hi team,

Noel - I tried adding BIAB to the ESET exclusion list. No dice. I get the same error. I'm really beginning to think this is a registry error. I use some good quality third party software, such as Photofiltre, Color Cop, and Notepad++ . Some third party software has proven to be garbage, so I uninstall it. The ESET program is also very good at flagging suspicious .exe files. I immediately let ESET delete them. Even at that, perhaps my registry has become corrupted.

So, I think there are two choices left: a reinstall of Windows 7 or upgrade to Windows 10. Would someone please roll the dice for me? And please, don't worry about over-beating me with solutions smile. I really want to get to the bottom of this. Your suggestions are very much appreciated. I consider myself lucky to have all of you chiming in. I only hope I can return the favor someday! Thanks.

- Lee

Last edited by Lee Batchelor; 05/07/16 07:53 AM.

Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.

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I found my Windows 7 Synergio PC disk. The problem is, it reads, "This disk contains 32-bit software only." I don't get it. Windows 7 Pro 64-bit was installed, and yet this is the disk I was given??

I believe I have narrowed my choices...Windows 10, or just sit and salivate over my non-functioning USB, BIAB program. (Actually, I know the program is fine. It's this d*** computer!)

Any last thoughts before I take the plunge? Thanks.

- Lee


Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.

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I vote 10.


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Thanks Matt! I'm leaning that way. I see from of the videos, I can still use Chrome as a browser in Windows 10. This is essential for me because I also teach online courses at Humber College in T.O.

Last edited by Lee Batchelor; 05/07/16 08:56 AM.

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Lee,

If you open regedit (not to make changes to the registry, but to search, see if you have an entry as included images below:

In case you haven't done this before (forgive me if this is redundant_, CLICK the windows start button, enter regedit in the Search Programs and filed box at the bottom, then CLICK on the regedit.exe listed at the top. Click "Yes" in the resulting dialog.

Select Computer Computer at the very top so the search will be all inclusive. You may want to also at this point save a backup of the registry file. Select File/Export,provide a Save in path somewhere in your My Documents folder, give it name meaningful to you, leave the default Save as type to *.reg. This will take less than 20-30 seconds.

Then, in the Edit menu, CLICK Find, leave the defaults and enter PCA2. Let us know if you find the following (screen shots of my registry):

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Hi Rich,

I am familiar with the registry functions. I found the following entry. It was in this path:

HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1375795168-2968556833-1989549193-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\Throttling\PCA2


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Last edited by Lee Batchelor; 05/07/16 11:05 AM.

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Are there any other opinions about perhaps just upgrading to Windows 10? I'm leaning in that direction. It has a lot of bells and whistles I could care less about, but apparently you can hide those in the closet. My Windows install disk is a 32-bit version. Why the 64-bit version was not given to me, I'll never know. The vendor lives 45 minutes away. It would take hours to reinstall everything (programs and the likes). The shift to Windows 10 seems much easier.

Sorry to be such a pain frown.

Thanks.

Last edited by Lee Batchelor; 05/08/16 04:00 AM.

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As you already probably know, your Windows 10 upgrade would be to the 64-bit version. This is preferable anyway now for most people.

I'm assuming that, if your diagnosis that your problem is caused by Windows is correct, Windows 10 would likely overwrite enough files to solve it. Of course, this is just an assumption.

Good luck.


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Good point Matt. Of course someone on the MS forums site said that the damaged files may "come along for the ride" unless I performed a clean install of Windows 10. Guess I'm back to square one. I even tried uninstalling ALL music related software to see if there were file sharing conflicts. After a restart, the same error comes up.

Thanks for the input.

Last edited by Lee Batchelor; 05/08/16 07:39 AM.

Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.

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Lee,

I wonder...if you went to the ASUS site and requested an OEM image disk/download for your system from them directly if they (ASUS) would assist? Some of my gear is Dell, and they did that for a friend of mine who needed an OEM image disk.

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Good idea, Rich. I shall try to make contact with ASUS. Thanks.


Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.

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Before going to all the trouble to update your OS, I would suggest:

- updating BIAB to latest version 433. The log file you posted above showed 432 and 431 being run.

http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm

If that doesn't work, de-install your antivirus program. Disabling them temporarily often doesn't work.

The log file you provided above was the compatibility assistant in Windows telling you that the bandina box file couldn't be run. That could be a number of things, like an antivirus blocking, but perhaps the solution lies in compatibility settings. BIAB runs fine in all versions of Windows 7 including 32 and 64 bit, so somethings out of place on your system when it comes to running bandina box


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Many thanks Peter! I'll try that.

Meanwhile, I'm reading the hardcopy manual. Can't wait to sink my teeth into this new version. It's radically different from my original DOS version circa 1991 smile.

- Lee


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