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Is anyone else auditioning some of the new hot styles, that have both real tracks and midi instruments, and finding it hard to blend all the tracks so they can be separately heard? =BSYBS_S.sty bass fusion with tenor sax uses a midi finger elect. bass and real tracks sax and real drum. It seems to me that whenever I load any of the demo songs for these types of styles that the real instruments are massively hotter - louder than any of the midi tracks. So, invariably I fiddle with the track volumes boosting midi tracks, trimming back real tracks and trying to find all the instruments in the mix... In this style, the midi volume settings for the bass and rhodes piano start up well below 64 when I scan the volume levels in the piano track midi window. I was getting frustrated trying to boost the floor level of all midi notes without wrecking note to note volume differences and accents by editing the midi tracks in the style editor, where you select a track/instrument and then click Pattern and select boost/adjust volume for all patterns by this much thinking that would raise the floor level, and I'm not succeeding in doing that. What seems to happen is the lower level midi notes get raised to the higher level notes, none higher than around 64! I know there's the midi note editor, still that's a killer for the burden.... Is there a way to boost the "floor" volume level of midi notes, for all midi notes in a track that's working? Thanks...
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Thank God for for the Behringer 9024 pre-master auto-scan, where it will take whatever inputs (both midi and audio) on its multi-channel compressor/activator channels and bring the final "mix" upfront and balanced. As I mentioned before...these can still be purchased cheaply, off the internet...but just ocasionally, for next to nothing ($150-200)!! They are very capable of making "short work" of fixing the final mix! Sorry, but that's a new suggestion on an old "discontinued" ultramizer!! I'm a novice with BIAB/RealBand, but mixing IS the key, even with improving midi file conversions to audio for a final "mix". I was just lucky enough, a few years back, to get this Behringer 9024 Ultramizer, which made my life so much easier when I recorded six CD's following the 9-11-01 dastardly attack on the Twin Towers. Had to get them out within a 3 month span, and I could only have accomplished that with a little help from my Behringer friend, which I still guard ferociously!! As a separate response to your problem, I am certainly nowhere near as accomplished with this software as you... and many others on this forum, but when he previously commented on mixing approaches in Real Band, etc., Gary Curran said....... "....Finally, if you have a MIDI part, you can use a DXi, or record audio if you have an external synth, and then mix that in as well. By using a dedicated DAW software program, which is what Real Band is, you can take the raw files from Band In A Box and tweak them, add effects to individual tracks, and complete the project, finally converting to .mp3. The mixing is one of the most important parts of creating a song, and just going from raw in BIAB to .mp3 isn't going to give you the results you can otherwise have with some mixing in Real Band.  
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Check your soundcard mixer and make sure the midi volume is up high enough. sometimes the wave and cd volumes are way up and the midi is way down.
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You may want to play around with the Normalizing function Opt|Preferences|Arrange. This will boost the Midi tracks volumes.
On the RealTracks, I use around 8 different styles that I have assigned RealTracks to. Rather than play with the volumes within each song, I do a global adjustment for the RealTrack volume within the style editor. Than way, each song I use that style for needs no adjustment using the volume spinners. For example, I use the Acoustic Jazz Bass and found that adjustments from 0 to -5 were required depending on which RT I use (65, 85, 110, 140). Each one was different.
FYI, most of my customized styles that use RealTracks needed volume adjustments. I also found that some RealDrums (Ex: Rhumba) also needed global adjustment.
It takes some time but much easier than playing around with each song.
Rachael
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...It seems to me that whenever I load any of the demo songs for these types of styles that the real instruments are massively hotter - louder than any of the midi tracks. ...
First make sure that all MIDI control volumes (NOT the volume spinners inside BIAB, but the soundcard's mixer applet and the MIDI volume of whatever you use for MIDI output device) are turned all the way up. This is to include any possible Master Fader involved, such as found in the Playback mixer applet of most soundcards.
Second, if you still find that your RealDrums and RealTracks are too hot, there is a function designed into them for ironing out this situation. Look inside the BIAB Control Panels for RealDrums and then for RealTracks and locate the "Global Volume Adjust" via the Settings button found in each Control Panel.
Note that these Global Volume Adjustments are in dB so you must set them *relative* to what you are hearing now.
If the Realtrack is too hot, try entering "-3"dB first.
If still too hot, try a "-6dB" figure.
This will likely take a bit of back and forth with some critical listening to fine tune it in. Be advised that nobody is likely to be able to detect 1dB of difference, but the use of 3dB increments is a good sound choice here. That is because the decibel scale is based on log10, which, if you do the arithmetic, you will discover that 6dB correlates to "twice as loud" -- give or take.
You should know by now that the ears at PGMusic -- and the ears of at least some of us who serve as beta testers, too -- would not settle for anything but a perfect blend of the mix. Matter of fact, that's why those Global Volume Adjustment settings got there in the first place.
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Fine and fast suggestions. Thanks.
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Also, check your "Realtime DX Audio Plug In" settings.
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Also, check your "Realtime DX Audio Plug In" settings.
Trax
Good point. (and good catch, Trax!)
Yes, check to make sure there isn't a "rogue" realtime DX audio plugin running, which effects the Realtracks/Realdrums as well as the Audio track.
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I use the auto convert to audio track. This converts the midi parts to audio and then I adjust them from there.
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I use the auto convert to audio track. This converts the midi parts to audio and then I adjust them from there.
I think you are talking of RealBand and not BIAB...
Happens to me all the time here, too.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
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In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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