|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6
Newbie
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6 |
Hi,
does anyone know how I can view the bass notation for Real Band bass lines in BIAB & Real Band?
any help or work-around would be much appreciated.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
All MIDI-based styles will show up in the notation for Bassline, no problem.
With the RealTracks, not all are supported in notation. However, if the Bass part up by the Radio Button is green, which indicates a RealTrack, and if it has an underscore (underline) on it, then it is a newer RealTrack that has notation support. If you can't see the notes, then you are using a RealTrack that is not supported for notation.
The RealTrack picker window also shows which ones support notation, too, under the "Chart" heading.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6
Newbie
|
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6 |
Thank you MAC,
I knew that already I was hoping there might be some trick to capture the midi notation the Real sounds are modeling from.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,992
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,992 |
That is part of the proprietary process used to make the Real Tracks.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Since they have been able to provide notation recently for newer RealTracks, I am wondering whether it wouldn't be possible for them to go back over the older ones and ADD the ability to show notation.
That would seem to be the reasonable thing to do, so that all RealTracks perform in the same fashion...
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900 |
Agreed, Mac. That makes a lot of sense
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261 |
Quote:
Since they have been able to provide notation recently for newer RealTracks, I am wondering whether it wouldn't be possible for them to go back over the older ones and ADD the ability to show notation.
Newer ones may well have been recorded via some midi pickup means. While probably not thoroughly impossible for bass lines, turning strict audio data into midi signals is a whole different story than picking up midi signals during then recording process.
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
Newer ones may well have been recorded via some midi pickup means. While probably not thoroughly impossible for bass lines, turning strict audio data into midi signals is a whole different story than picking up midi signals during then recording process.
Nope.
RealTracks are transcribed in order to get the note data.
That data does exist for all RealTracks and is why I am fairly certain that it would be possible to go back to the ones that don't have notation currently and add it to the process without jumping through hoops of programming fire.
I think that pgmusic has upgraded whatever pitch recognition softwares they have used in the past, though, and now have much more accurate transcriptions that need less human intervention than ever before. Would almost bet on Melodyne, BTW.
There are some around here who have done side work for pgmusic in the past and perhaps even now, transcribing RealTracks, finding and creating loop points and a few other things. The country chicken pickers can be a daunting transcription task at times, don't ask how I know that for certain (grin).
But for the most part, if not in all cases, a live musician with an acoustic instrument setup is simply recorded while playing to a backing track in headphones to yield the base RealTrack file. Look Ma, no MIDI.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261 |
Quote:
RealTracks are transcribed in order to get the note data.
You sure? How'd you know? It appears so simple to equip acoustic instruments with midi pickup sensors, thus having the cake and eat it too -> viz. have authentic audio recordings together with automatic note transcriptions via those tiny midi pickups. Acoustic pianos with midi sensors are ubiquitous too these days.
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
You sure? How'd you know?
I am positive. And I already told you why.
Again -- I was one of the original group of human transcribers for the second release set of RealTracks. it was partially automated, but the human intervention was necessary to clear up glitch notes, timing tracking, etc. -- and in some cases, it meant redoing the entire thing one note at a time. PGMusic advertised for paid help right here on this forum back then.
You really don't think they messed around with a MIDI pickup on a pedal steel, do you? heh
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261 |
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 897
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 897 |
Mel--ooo--dyne...
And the libin' is easy.
Fish are jumpin'
And the Mary Jane is HIGH...
Oh, yo daddy's rich,
And yo Mom is gooooodd lookin'....
So hush, lil baby...
Do not
evah, evah cry....
yi, yi, yappie yodle do dah...
(with a midi steel a-wailin'
in the back-ground)....
Sorry, jus got back from the
Indian River-side, and sure nuff,
the fish they were jumpin
and the game warden wuz hi!!
Hi yo, Officer!!
Let's get some more of those great
bassist-jazz-lines coming down onto
the "parchment"!!
Yamaha...Motif ES-8, Motif Rack, CS6X
Korg...Karma,Triton Classic, PA-80, M-1+
AkaiSampler-S5000, Roland.. X5080 Rack/G-1000 Arranger
Various Guitars/Basses Amps Pedals Rec.Equip.
Plus, BIAB 2015 and Sonar Platinum 2015 Upgrade from Cakewalk's Sonar X-3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217 |
.
I reported numerous cases where bass Realtracks showed up with serious innaccuracies in their notation. Perhaps these issues have been addressed in more recent editions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.
Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,190
Posts776,215
Members39,595
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean