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Country Music Award - What the Heck!! Just finished watching my Tivo'ed CMA, Taylor Swift Entertainer of the Year, Best Female Vocalist, you have got to be kidding me  . Is this some sort of industry secret or what? Even though Kenya was sloppy drunk and a total ass, he still knows good music when he hears it. Can someone from the Country Music Genre please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Taylor is quite talented -- she is the real deal. She writes music that connects with the main country record buying public (women 14-45) and she has cross-over appeal. She's a good writer and she hooked up with a few good writers that helped polish her lyrics (but a lot of it is her).
She has an OK voice, maybe pitchy here and there -- but that just makes her a real person. She really has a good handle on her career and is making a lot of good decisions. If she keeps it up, she will become as big as Garth Brooks. A lot of old-timers say she isn't country and some of that is true. But she is writing what is selling and you've got to give her props for that.
Let me re-cap: Good writer who writes "real" stuff, decent singer and performer, smart music business person.
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It ain't country no more. It's crap
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Smart, talented, song writer, OK, I can give her props.
But did you hear her voice? And she swept the awards, for best singer no less (not songwriter) and best performer (unbelievable)! Carrie, Reba, Martina and that gal from Sugarland could out sing her in their sleep.
My opinion, "...the emperor has no clothes". But maybe its just me.
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Here's another that won a CMA once, thought it apropos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgiILl_F7O8
Almost, brought a tear to me eye. And I ain't even a big Country fan but hells bells what is going on in the music industry that makes crap bubble to the top. And it ain't just country! I saw Paul McCarthny at a big awards show a while back doing a duet with some rapper. They sang "Yesterday" and the rapper basically made strange grunting noises to backup Paul. This was on national TV, Incredible. I can't imagine how respectable musicians can put up with this. What must they be thinking??
Sorry to rant, but this just got to me. I will get over it but these have not been the best days for music.
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Mac,
There's so much irony in that YouTube post. George Strait is pretty 'pitchy' in that one! Can't seem to stay on pitch when he's putting the 'emotion' in it.
I would guess that most country 'purists' would say that George is the real deal.
Fact of the matter is - any genre of music has to evolve and adopt elements from other genres - from the past and predicting the future - in order to stay alive.
This is not a defense of the winner - don't know if I've even heard a song by Ms. Swift. There's a long history of music awards shows not representing a public opinion of what's deserving of an award.
Didn't Allison Krauss and Robert Plant win a bunch of awards at the Grammys last year for the 'sinking sands' album? I'm a big fan of both, but geez, there's only a couple really inspired performances on that album. Some of the songs are really pretty crummy. It was a T-Bone Burnett hype-love-fest.
Awards and their shows have become a joke and it's been that way for many years. They have some of the worst audio production of any broadcast music performances - at least this has been true of the Grammys. What they need is to have the audio crew for Austin City Limits or Ramsey Lewis' shows from PBS and run the audio for the Grammys.
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Thanks for the link Mac. Taylor has made the advances she has mainly because of her looks. She is mediocre at best and she plays pop, not country. Ricky Skaggs, Dwight Yoakum, Buck Owens, Loretta Lynn, Kathy Mattea, Patty Loveless, the Judds, Billy Ray Cyrus(sic), all grew up and started their careers within a 50 mile radius of where I live. Even more bluegrass players that are famous got their start here. So I know what country music is. And bluegrass is where country got started. Here's a link to show what I'm talking about. Dr. Ralph Stanley playing with Dwight Yoakum. And if you'll notice, Jerry Douglas is on the dobro, Mark O'Connor is on the fiddle. I've met Mark O'Connor and Chet Atkins said that Mark is the most talented person that ever set foot in Nashville. Considering that he can play ANY stringed instrument better than anyone alive, I have to agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RKrdSfelCs&feature=PlayList&p=EEF58E79A04471F4Bob
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Here's the words to the song I posted. Considering that I worked in the mines 3-1/2 years and my dad worked his whole life in the coal mines, it's a very pertinent song to me. Especially since we one time got notice that my dad had been killed in a "roof fall", and thank God he walked into the house later that day. He was almost crushed along with several other miners. They didn't find him until later that day because he was on the other side of the collapse.
Miner's Prayer
When the whistle blows each morning
And I walk down in that cold, dark mine
I say a prayer to my dear Savior
Please let me see the sunshine one more time
Chorus:
When oh when will it be over
When will I lay these burdens down
And when I die, dear Lord in heaven
Please take my soul from 'neath that cold dark ground
I still grieve for my poor brother
And I still hear my dear old mother cry
When late that night they came and told her
He'd lost his life down in the Big Shoal Mine
Chorus:
When oh when will it be over
When will I lay these burdens down
And when I die, dear Lord in heaven
Please take my soul from 'neath that cold dark ground
I have no shame, I feel no sorrow
If on this earth not much I own
I have the love of my sweet children
An old plow mule, a shovel and a hoe
Chorus:
When oh when will it be over
When will I lay these burdens down
And when I die, dear Lord in heaven
Please take my soul from 'neath that cold dark ground
And when I die, dear Lord in heaven
Please take my soul from 'neath that cold dark ground
Please take my soul from 'neath that cold dark ground
Please take my soul from 'neath that cold dark ground
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"It's not country", "It's crap", "She has no talent" -- the crying and whining of the irrelevant.
Sorry guys, Nashville really doesn't care about your opinion -- your not buying records these days.
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Kevin,
The question isn't who's buying records. It's who the people in charge of determining who the "stars" are.
People like Taylor Swift are abandoning what country is and they're playing pop to sell records.
I wish the people in Nashville would look at the the music, and not the number of CD's sold, but that's never going to happen.
I think if people were actually given the opportunity, they would still buy "country" music if anyone actually played it! But unfortunately, no one is playing it.
Bob
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Huh, I think Taylor was in charge of making herself a star. Her first visit to Nashville didn't go too well and she rejected a later deal because they company (RCA) wanted to put on staff for awhile. She really made her way with MySpace and her dad's $$$ to get rolling (all artists these days need some kind of bankroll!). She made nashville pay attention to her and she is re-writing the rules.
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All well and good, shes ambitious, talented and is making the industry come to her, more power to her, but can she sing?
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Unfortunately, you may be right.
I just hope that someday, "country" music will come back.
I miss it.
Bob
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jazzmandan,
She can sing enough to have "autotune" fix it. That's the problem.
Bob
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George Strait and Alan Jackson were both "pitchy" on the song Mac posted. That's what real music is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we want perfection, then let's let computers play the music for us.
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God forbid the day when we let computers replace real musicians and singers !
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First off, the YouTube video has obviously warped audio. How Scott didn't catch that is beyond me. Quote:
"It's not country", "It's crap", "She has no talent" -- the crying and whining of the irrelevant.
Sorry guys, Nashville really doesn't care about your opinion -- your not buying records these days.
Kevin
Kevin, anyone with money is relevant and anyone not selling to a person with money is a fool. This is part of the reason why radio stations are going under and the music industry isn't selling music much today. And their excuses are hysterical. They blame file trading, MP3s, internet/XM/Sirius radio, video games, swine flu...you name it. No mention of their own bad business plan and all of the boring artists that they promote. The real whining and crying that I hear is from the lawyers and executives in the RIAA.
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You mean like using BiaB, RB, RD, RT and pitch correction 
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