|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 57
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 57 |
I recently rediscovered the joy of recording jazz using the Band in a Box swinging rhythm section. 1) I typed in my own harmonization of WHEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHING IN and then added an intro and outro. 2) After muting the piano (as I would be playing my own), I saved as a MIDI file and imported the file into LogicExpress. 3) The individual drum components were placed on separate tracks so I could EQ, reverb, and level each of the component parts individually into the mix. I found the bass playing an octave too low so I simply transposed it up one octave. 4) I then improvised several performances of my piano part using several tracks. I then pieced together an acceptable composite of several performances and then edited notes, rhythms and velocities. One 16th-note run was composed right on the screen. 5) I then went back to change some of the drum and bass parts so as to better support my piano playing. This was fun - adding accents and such. 6) I played around further for a couple of days and finally came up with a final mix which is posted up on iCompositions. Here 'tis - http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=126853Constructive comments most welcome. Thanks for listening. gpt
Last edited by georgeptingley; 11/15/09 02:02 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Laid back and not what I expected at all.
Nice.
Very nice.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 583
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 583 |
Loved your arrangement. You've given me some ideas. I usually think of this tune as up-tempo two-beat style.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439 |
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya  --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 317
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 317 |
Very refreshing sound! Reminds me a bit of Vince Grimaldi. I like your ideas.
DennisD
There are only 3 kinds of musicians: those that can count, and those that can't!
PC AMD A4-5300 APU 3.4 GHz, 8gb RAM, 1T HDD, Windows 10,
Reaper 4.77, BIAB2018, PTPA12, RB2018, Roland VS-880 DAW
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 385
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 385 |
Yes, George -- very smooth, very tasty -- you can post more of these.
Reminded me of the elegant stylings of Hank Jones.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 317
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 317 |
Sorry guys I meant to write it reminds me of Vince Guaraldi. Check out his Charlie Brown Christmas cd. Post some more, I like the flavor of it. DennisD
There are only 3 kinds of musicians: those that can count, and those that can't!
PC AMD A4-5300 APU 3.4 GHz, 8gb RAM, 1T HDD, Windows 10,
Reaper 4.77, BIAB2018, PTPA12, RB2018, Roland VS-880 DAW
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,844
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,844 |
Very nice, George! Just now got a chance to listen to it and thoroughly enjoyed your version of Saints.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 12TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 12TB SATA BB2026/UMC204HD&404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/Notion/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com (under rehosting/construction)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,217 |
.
Very classy. Thanks for sharing this.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,950
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,950 |
Nice, exactly how to use BIAB!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,722
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,722 |
Quote:
Loved your arrangement. You've given me some ideas. I usually think of this tune as up-tempo two-beat style.
Absolutely top shelf! Also not even close to what I expected, this is a wonderful arrangement.
Later,
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,564
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,564 |
I really liked this arrangement, also. It sounds like something David Benoit would be recording.
That piano you used has a gorgeous clear tone.
Welcome to the forum, George.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122 |
Is there a button for this "Swinging rhythm section" that I'm missing? or are we just referring to various swing styles? That was an awesome piece regardless. The piano was fantastic.
Rob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
Is there a button for this "Swinging rhythm section" that I'm missing? or are we just referring to various swing styles? That was an awesome piece regardless. The piano was fantastic.
Rob
You brought out a chuckle here, Rob.
No one-button trick at all, just the chosen BIAB style playing as it was designed to play.
Of course, a well-versed and tasty hand at Realtime Playing, Chord Entry, Substitutions, the jazz devices, goes a long way towards making this arrangement very interesting as it plays. There is some very tasty changes in the backup band chording as the tune progresses. Typical of what well-versed live players might do in order to keep the Ear Candy flowing and help create that build to climax and then to anti-climax thang, not just repeating the same exact chord sequence for every chorus. This example is well thought out in that regard IMO. And, yes, the style of live recording and playing that piano is a tribute to the late great Vince Guaraldi. A genius who modestly described himself as "just a boogie-woogie pianist" -- and there's truth to that statement, analyze "Linus and Lucy" and you've got a modified boogie-woogie LH with swing sections interspersed.
Listen to it again and focus on his LH comping. It is ALL THERE.
The Flat Five sub leads to the Flat Two sub, which is on the highway to Tritone City...
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,564
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,564 |
Tough being in traffic in Tritone City. Everyone is stuck in the middle trying to find another way to go home.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 92
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 92 |
6 strings. 24 frets. An infinite amount of possibilities.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 64
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 64 |
When this program is handled by someone with true musical genius and instinct it is capable of amazing results! Your arrangement and playing were superb.
I think the key is to have a solid concept of what you want to accomplish and then use various tools, including BIAB to accomplish that, instead of the approach many are taking, which is to sort of let the program dictate direction.
I'm going to look for everything you have posted. Count me among your fans.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
I think the key is to have a solid concept of what you want to accomplish and then use various tools, including BIAB to accomplish that, instead of the approach many are taking, which is to sort of let the program dictate direction.
BINGO
Hold yer cards, ladies and gennamen, we have a winner here!
"Always have the full arrangement in your head first..."
We cannot count on Serendippity to bring in every performance.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,699
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,699 |
hi George! that's some great playing there really enjoyed this thanks eric
AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post your own Tips and Tricks here
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 7
Newbie
|
|
Newbie
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 7 |
This is my kinda Jazz, GT. Very tasty.
Cheers!
Kj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.
Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.
Holiday Weekend Hours
As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:
April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours
Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!
— Team PG
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,184
Posts801,710
Members40,062
| |
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean