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I wonder if anyone decides in advance whether they will or won't buy the upgrade if the upgrade has or hasn't got the feauture that they would like to see the most?

In my case it's the ability to easily save the realtracks in their current played form (without having to convert to wave or other workaround)

Hoping and waiting.

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G'day John,
I understand your pain - my kids call 'em "Dad jokes".




LOL ...Lawrie , and I understand you too perfectly. My kids sometimes say mom's cooking recipes are funniest than my jokes... .................. ..............


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G'day Carlos,
your kids answer is pretty good mate

BTW, if I haven't mentioned it before, I love your music.


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Dang.. I was kind of hoping that the 2010 upgrade would be announced today on the Saturday after Thanksgiving... although I'm not quite sure why I expected that... maybe I saw it in a thread on the YAHOO BIAB user forum..

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G'day Carlos,
BTW, if I haven't mentioned it before, I love your music.




yeah, Carlos...
the video on your web site shows you playing a synth guitar that tracks faster than any I've ever heard... is that a Godin xtSA by any chance? Sounds very impressive!

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Carlos has some amazing stuff, no doubt.

He did explain what he's doing in detail (even Peter Gannon was interested) some months ago. Maybe you (or he) can find that post and save Carlos some work.


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That was Carlos's nifty Godin doing some great tracking...it also took a little bit of editing of ghost notes that occasionally cropped up. I only rate Metheny above Carlos...but they're equally adept at finger placement which is a big part of it. As for Metheny, he had his original Roland GR-303 modified a bit
(har har), but I have found the tracking on my unmodified GR-303, played through an old-fashioned Roland GM-70 converter pretty damn good (and it has some features that later "technology" hasn't matched. But Goodin is Goody-Goody as far as tracking goes!! And so is Carlos, whether it's jazz, blues, rock, latin...or a mixture of all the good idioms. Can't beat Carlos with an Egg-Beater...got that, Carlos????


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I reckon that by Tuesday Dec the first at 3pm Canada time BIAB 2010 will be released to the public, will be the best release to date with 51 new features. The PG servers will overheat such will be the demand and the audiophile edition will require a second hard drive.


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Soon, sure, but not on December 1st - there is a long way to go yet in the beta testing, I reckon


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Thanks for the info Sam. As I know you are a beta tester and with a nod and a wink you say that there is a long way to go yet in the beta testing I take from that, that the beta testing is already finished.



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Is it? I wouldn't know. Beta testing takes time and it happens usually around now because Peter has traditionally brought out the newest version in time for Christmas but nobody knows what is REALLY happening behind the scenes, let alone who the beta testers are or what they do... if you catch my drift.

So you think I am a beta tester? Very funny! What makes you think that?


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Personnally I count the passing of the years by the issues of BIAB. It some how makes everything go a little smother.
Happy Holidays to my favorite group of software makers. No news ia apparently Good News!!!! I hope!!!

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I note that the lawyer (at least this one) has never been asked to beta test. Perhaps there is a reason.


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Due to the large number of barristers in the family I will refrain from participating in the chorus of upcoming or impending jokes pertaining to, or portraying, those members in the legal profession, in whichever capacity as may be referred to from time to time, and would like to point out that the above does not portray the position held by PG music, or attempt to convey a particular position on the subject.......and...

never mind.

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A few years ago, there was a general "beta testers wanted" ad/thread on the forum that I guess people just responded to. Given the extent of your work with BAIB (and the prominence you give to it in speaking about your CDs) I would imagine that, if you were to send an email or personal message to Peter Gannon offering your services, your experience would probably be valued. Clearly, however, I have no sway in the matter!

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I received an answer from PGMusic on a related matter that said the Beta Testers request would be coming out in "2 to 4 weeks".
That was on Nov. 15th.

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I don't know... I thought 2010 didn't get here until January 1, about a week after Christmas.



From what I've heard, we don't have to worry until Version 2012--the final BIAB release.

You better get all your wishlist items submitted over the next two years!


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Hey, Joel -

Long time no hear from. Hope all is going well with you out in the Blue Ridge.

Of course, BIAB 2012 won't be the final version, because that's really just when the Mayan calendar resets itself (sort of like the odometer of your car). So, I guess we'll be back to BIAB v1 then.

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Since Calendar Round dates can only distinguish in 18,980 days, equivalent to around 52 solar years, the cycle repeats roughly once each lifetime, and thus, a more refined method of dating was needed if history was to be recorded accurately. To measure dates, therefore, over periods longer than 52 years, Mesoamericans devised the Long Count calendar.

The Maya name for a day was k'in. Twenty of these k'ins are known as a winal or uinal. Eighteen winals make one tun. Twenty tuns are known as a k'atun. Twenty k'atuns make a b'ak'tun.

The Long Count calendar identifies a date by counting the number of days from the Mayan creation date 4 Ahaw, 8 Kumk'u (August 11, 3114 BC in the proleptic Gregorian calendar or September 6 in the Julian calendar). But instead of using a base-10 (decimal) scheme like Western numbering, the Long Count days were tallied in a modified base-20 scheme. Thus 0.0.0.1.5 is equal to 25, and 0.0.0.2.0 is equal to 40. As the winal unit resets after only counting to 18, the Long Count consistently uses base-20 only if the tun is considered the primary unit of measurement, not the k'in; with the k'in and winal units being the number of days in the tun. The Long Count 0.0.1.0.0 represents 360 days, rather than the 400 in a purely base-20 (vigesimal) count.

Table of Long Count units Days Long Count period Long Count period Approx solar years
1 = 1 K'in
20 = 20 K'in = 1 Winal 0.055
360 = 18 Winal = 1 Tun 1
7,200 = 20 Tun = 1 K'atun 19.7
144,000 = 20 K'atun = 1 B'ak'tun 394.3

There are also four rarely-used higher-order cycles: piktun, kalabtun, k'inchiltun, and alautun.

Since the Long Count dates are unambiguous, the Long Count was particularly well suited to use on monuments. The monumental inscriptions would not only include the 5 digits of the Long Count, but would also include the two tzolk'in characters followed by the two haab' characters.

Misinterpretation of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is the basis for a New Age belief that a cataclysm will take place on December 21, 2012. December 21, 2012 is simply the last day of the 13th b'ak'tun. But that is not the end of the Long Count because the 14th through 20th b'ak'tuns are still to come.

Sandra Noble, executive director of the Mesoamerican research organization FAMSI, notes that "for the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle". She considers the portrayal of December 2012 as a doomsday or cosmic-shift event to be "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[12] The 2009 science fiction apocalyptic disaster film 2012 is based on this belief.




Of course, we'll see...


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Well, would you believe "within sight of the Blue Ridge"?

Okay, how about, "A hop, skip, and jump west of Warrenton"?

We made it past Y2K relatively unscathed; I suppose we'll hang on through the next apocalypse as well.

Anyway, if PG Music remains true to form, we'll have Version 2012 in plenty of time to jam while every capitalist and Christian symbol topples (according to the movie). Move over, Nero!


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