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There was request to hear the samplemodeling Trumpet from a prospective EWI/WX5 player on the samplemodeling forum to hear the instrument by itself. Here are the samples all done in a great rush with no adjustments except normalization. My playing skills are not up to most of the contributors of these forums, but I think you will be able to hear the Trumpets very well. All done with EWI-USB with default Wind Controller setting and no changes to any other params in the Trumpet software. It's mostly the main Trumpet with and without mute as well as Trumpet no 2 or 3 (I did not keep track of it). Sample A: http://www.supload.com/listen?s=D2DfbuSample B: http://www.supload.com/listen?s=N55ZMPMore response and plays better than any synth I have ever used. Thanks for listening,
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Thoroughly enjoyed listening to these. Certainly a very realistic sound.
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Sounds outstanding to me! Very realistic indeed!! (And the playing wasn't as bad as you make it out to be either, Dan! LOL)
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Certainly does a good job emulating the sound of the classical or orchestral trumpet.
I have a feeling that was the target here. It does a fair job on the swing stuff, if you are into orchestral trumpet players playin' swing stuff. A bit too pure for that, I think.
Try to avoid gettin' on the breath swells so much.
Ome dead giveaway that only trumpeters will hear is that low C, which is the D on the Bb trumpet. It is dead on the tempered scale here, something we all wish would actually happen on the trumpet that the design really doesn't allow, even if we throw the third or first valve slide out. Not a kill here.
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Not sure that it's orchestral, but does lean toward classical tone. The muted section sounds likd a Harmon mute to me rather than a cup mute. Mac is right about low D and C#, but I like having it in tune rather than being off. FWIW
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Hey Dan,
Good job. I've been on the fence about either the "Trumpet", or Wallender WIVI, and now the new "Mojo" from Big Fish. I do like your demo. Sounds like the EWI USB is working well for you. I have a few questions about using it, because I've been struggling to get it working>
1. I can't seem to get the rollers working correctly. What have you done do get this technique down?
2. What settings do you use in Aria player as far as Key Delay, Breath control, etc.
3. Have you been able to get this working as a valid input in BIAB? PC or MAC?
4. Any other tips or tricks I should be using to make the EWI USB work better?
I actually liked the Akai EVI 1000, it was VERY easy to play and finger. Not so with the EWI USB!
Thanks so much,
Ed
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Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting. Nicely done.
I have "Mr Sax T" & will soon be getting "Mr A" & "Mr B" along with "The Trumpet".
Best of luck with it.
Mick
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I wonder if you can detune the D in the patch. I didn't even notice it until you guys pointed it out.
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Thoroughly enjoyed listening to these. Certainly a very realistic sound.
Thanks Noel. I listened some of your original songs and liked them very much - very pleasant singing voice.
Dan
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Good job. I've been on the fence about either the "Trumpet", or Wallender WIVI, and now the new "Mojo" from Big Fish. I do like your demo. Sounds like the EWI USB is working well for you. I have a few questions about using it, because I've been struggling to get it working>
Ed,
Thanks for taking the time to listen. I posted it because there is no demo version of the samplemodeling, and it is sometimes hard to judge from the demos that manufacturer put out there. I'm not familiar with the Wallender WIVI or Mojo, but I will check them out.
1. I can't seem to get the rollers working correctly. What have you done do get this technique down?
As a matter of fact, I very much dislike the construction of the octave keys. Compared to the EWI-4000s and the old 3020 it's terrible. Specifically the walls at the top and bottom end of the octave wells do not allow your fingers to properly access the outermost rollers. No such problem with the aforementioned older models (which have 8 rollers). Other than the cramped space on the EWI-USB I don't have any problems. It helps to exert more pressure on the octave keys.
2. What settings do you use in Aria player as far as Key Delay, Breath control, etc.
I use the default settings shown in the manual. However, I can't get really nice legato with any of the Aria soundpatches even with the legato button enabled. So, although the Aria/Garritan sounds are great in demos done mostly with notation programs, I don't get the same overall sound quality with live wind controller playing the Aria sounds.
3. Have you been able to get this working as a valid input in BIAB? PC or MAC?
I have not tried, since a year or two ago with Kontakt2 player which sometimes caused configuration screwups, although others on these forums have had more success.
4. Any other tips or tricks I should be using to make the EWI USB work better?
Until recently (about 1 week?) when I got the samplemodeling Trumpet (sTrumpet)I had not used the EWI-USB as much as my EWI-3020 or the EWI-4000s. The EWI-USB worked far better immediately with the sTrumpet, so I have not yet gone back to the 4000s or 3020 to tweak the settings.
I'm afraid I don't have any special or useful advice in general. However, if you tell me what specifically you find to be a problem I will try to help.
I actually liked the Akai EVI 1000, it was VERY easy to play and finger. Not so with the EWI USB!
Isn't that a wind controller built for trumpet fingering? Are you doing the special valve fingering on the EWI-USB? I'm not a trumpet player so I have not tried it.
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Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting. Nicely done.
I have "Mr Sax T" & will soon be getting "Mr A" & "Mr B" along with "The Trumpet".
Best of luck with it.
Mick
Thanks,
I also got the Sax Bros at the same time as the Trumpet, but I haven't been able to get really good sounds from the Saxes in the 20 minutes I messed with them. I was so amazed with how good the Trumpet was, that I haven't had time to mess with the Saxes.
What wind controller do you use and do you have any tips on tweaking Mr Sax software?
Dan
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What wind controller do you use and do you have any tips on tweaking Mr Sax software?
I play Synthophone. (www.Synthophone.info) It plays best in "BreathController" mode. I haven't been able to play it @ 88.1. I play at 44 or 48. AT set to growl.
Best thing is to play around with it & see what works for what you want.
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Best thing is to play around with it & see what works for what you want.
That's sound advice for *anything* MIDI.
Play around with it, find out what it does well and emphasize that.
Also find out what it *doesn't* do so well, and develop the habit of never going for that...
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Hi Dan,
Thanks a bunch for that info. I'm still pluggin' away trying to get the right settings, but so far for me I still prefer the EVI (Yes, I am a trumpet player!)
Happy Holidays,
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