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Originally Posted By: jannesan
Great funky gospel song, catchy like George Michael's Faith. Nicely built band from so many different sources, but still sounding very compact, especially horns and the strumming guitar are nice, a big hit on my top 40 radio station

Thanks, Janne. I had a lot of fun building the interplay between the bass and the guitar.

I was really happy with how the horns ended up fitting in as well.

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David,

Wow!!!!



This is an incredible arrangement. I can't even begin to imagine how much time you've spent harmonising, compiling and layering these instruments and vocals. The end result is the ultimate definition of 'first class music'. Quite honestly, I'm in awe with what you've managed to accomplish.

A terrific song, a fantastic arrangement and a really, REALLY brilliant listen!

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Great backstory!

Everything we hear is good...very good but what really stands out to us is the arrangement. It is amazingly effective. When we first read the lyric we were expecting a gospel tinged blues number...but this is something different. Unique sounding to our ears. Rootsy and also modern...that couldn't be easy.

It's easy to imagine this playing over the credits of many films we've seen.

Most impressive. A lot of hard work (we would imagine) that paid off big time.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
This is an incredible arrangement. I can't even begin to imagine how much time you've spent harmonising, compiling and layering these instruments and vocals. The end result is the ultimate definition of 'first class music'. Quite honestly, I'm in awe with what you've managed to accomplish.

Hi, Noel.

Thanks! laugh

There are basically 3 additional melody parts, three harmony parts, and three more high harmonies. Normally I like to leave harmony parts alone as much as possible, but there were plenty of flubbed parts. The high harmonies had initially been octave doubles of the melody, but I re-pitched them into harmony parts.

I'd initially left the high harmonies out of the mix because I wanted to add some contract between the verses and choruses, which are already too similar. But I couldn't resist putting them back in.

Since Joanne Cooper posted a blog on creating harmonies in Melodyne, I'll give a shout-out to Waves Tune, which is what I'm using. The GUI is more cramped, but if you're on a budget, you'll get more bang for the buck.

While it's not really the mastering plugin's job to brighten a mix, I found a preset in Ozone 7 Elements that did a good job of bringing out the high end of the mix. It was a tough call between a preset that "glued" the vocals a bit more, or this one, which is perhaps a bit to "fizzy" on the top end.

I also used the free Ozone Imager, which did a nice job widening the stereo field.

Thanks again!


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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Everything we hear is good...very good but what really stands out to us is the arrangement.

Thanks! blush

I was thinking of you two when I was working on this, because historical stuff and harmonies are really your wheelhouse.

But Janice comes by her harmonies the honest way, but I resort to every trick I can find. wink

I appreciate the encouraging words!


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Hi, David !

I must say that I like this
tune very much, I may not
be able to say why, but it just
is so ! Maybe it is your use
of many interesting instros
and vocals !

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Originally Posted By: dani48
I must say that I like this tune very much, I may not be able to say why, but it just is so!

Hi, Dani.

Well, I certainly won't argue with you!

Thanks for listening, as well as your feedback! smile


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
David,

It was as much fun reading the details of how the song came to be as it was listening (which was a LOT of fun!).

The vocal "sound" threw me at first, but it took very little time to become accustom to it - and to see it as an integral part of the song.

Cool horns. Cool bass. Cool acoustic rhythm...

I got a David Byrne/Talking Heads vibe...

Enjoyed.

fj


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Originally Posted By: Sundance
+1 to what FJ said. You're on a creative roll playing with all those toys. Keep it up.

Thanks, Josie.

I'll see what I can do.


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David, this was great. The intro definitely roped me in, and then you added new texture continuously as the song evolved...keeps the listener interested all the way through. The vocals were really distinctive here. Really fine job all through. And by the way, I really liked and appreciated your notes up top about your process...very interesting and informative.

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Originally Posted By: kybordr
Really fine job all through. And by the way, I really liked and appreciated your notes up top about your process...very interesting and informative.

Thanks, Rob.

I figure confession is good for the soul, and sometimes the most distinctive or interesting parts of my songs come about purely by accident, or as a creative solution to something that went wrong.

For me, the final mix is the most frustrating part of the process. That's the point where reality that the vision of the song just doesn't match the sonic reality, and I've got serious doubts that I'll be able salvage it.

It's also the point where my poor computer is overloaded, stuttering and flailing under the weight of way too many tracks. For some reason, effects on the master bus of Reaper seem to be more CPU hungry than other effects.

My son reminded me that mastering is supposed to be a separate step, and when I went back and re-mixed and re-mastered the song, I found it useful to separate the two of them out, because you're trying to solve different problems in the different steps.

Anyway, thanks for the positive feedback! I appreciate it.


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Cool song David!! I don't think I caught the first version, but this sounds very good. Some nice lyrics here. Good tune!! Take care. Greg

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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Cool song David!! I don't think I caught the first version, but this sounds very good.

Thanks, Greg! smile


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David,
I missed the progress of versions here, but enjoyed this latest mix.
Even without the backstory I can hear how much work you put into the production.
The guitars are distinctvely different from RealTracks, I love the horns and ,as usual, the layered harmonies... definitely has a Band feeling.

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The guitars are distinctively different from RealTracks, I love the horns and, as usual, the layered harmonies... definitely has a Band feeling.

Thanks, Robert!


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Hello, David

Horns - Zero-G, Brass Elements (loops) are very nice.
Your way to use them is wonderful and very effective.
The combination of Strummed Guitars, Essential Bass (loops) and EZ Drummer are really nice.
I am very impressed.
I think it took quite a while to produce it.
Your vocals are also very good.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

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Originally Posted By: animarorecords
I think it took quite a while to produce it.

Hi, Shigeki.

Thanks! Sadly, the part that really took a lot of time was cleaning up the mix - aligning vocals, fixing wrong notes, balancing the voices, and so on.

There are still a couple minor things I need to fix - the missing /s/ in "fields", for example, makes me cringe when I don't hear it - but I'm pretty happy with it.

I'm glad you enjoyed the listen. smile


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Great, great song! Very enjoyable.

I think it was a matter of good luck that you couldn't get the guitar to fit in, because the sax works perfectly.

Cool stuff!
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Its nice to see hear these resurrections...
I wouldn't mind seeing & hearing more of them brought back.

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I thought this was great the first time I heard it.

I am confused about the reissue though, from the time stamp.

Is it really a reissue from March, or did it resurface from March? I have seen this happen to some songs that are even 3 or 4 years old and I can't quite figure out what is going on.

Is sure is a good song though.

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