I think most of the RealCharts for piano are the actual midi from the Yamaha acoustic/digital piano.
Agreed. I remember reading that it was a Disklavier.
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I use Melodyne for editing Real Track audio quite often, especially single note lines such Bass, vocal or Horn lines, it also works on polyphonic phrases with mixed results... I believe every producer should have Melodyne in their toolbox.
LOL I saw AudioTrack, ah a new user, I thought that's the other part of VideoTrack.
Pretty close. You're actually right on the money there PL
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I use Melodyne for editing Real Track audio quite often, especially single note lines such Bass, vocal or Horn lines, it also works on polyphonic phrases with mixed results... I believe every producer should have Melodyne in their toolbox.
I agree.
I also have used Melodyne to modify a RT.
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If Biab itself can change the notes of RealTracks according to the set key and the chords being played, so why then it cannot offer changing the notes by changing the notes in the notation?
Because these are pre recorded snips of music not individually generated notes.
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If Biab itself can change the notes of RealTracks according to the set key and the chords being played, so why then it cannot offer changing the notes by changing the notes in the notation?
Because these are pre recorded snips of music not individually generated notes.
So u mean that Biab can transpose and time-stretch those snips but not their individual notes? Is yes, so then how comes the very same thing is possible with the new playable realtracks?
The Playable RealTracks use sampled notes from the original instrument. So it loads the soundfont player vst into the track and plays midi notes where the RealTrack instrument is muted.
this whole method is fiddly and impractical. In fact, useless. I am not trying to fix 'one note', but one note for a chord that is being played dozens of times. What a waste of time. I'll just kill the whole track
this whole method is fiddly and impractical. In fact, useless. I am not trying to fix 'one note', but one note for a chord that is being played dozens of times. What a waste of time. I'll just kill the whole track
It is and that's why so many people still use MIDI and plug-ins. RTs give a quick and very good cut, but one's rather restricted in what one can do with them. MIDI allows much more control and tuning. I think the tricky bit is getting the right balance between those two enemies.
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<...snip...> It is and that's why so many people still use MIDI and plug-ins. RTs give a quick and very good cut, but one's rather restricted in what one can do with them. MIDI allows much more control and tuning<...>
I mostly use MIDI and a hardware sound module instead of plug-ins.
Why hardware? 1) There is no noticeable latency (I think the average is about 5ms, or the time it takes sound to travel 6 feet). 2) Hardware synths store their sounds in ROM. Soft synths have to create the sound for each and every note as they are playing, which is why the latency). But to keep the latency shorter, they cut corners. Stored in ROM, the sound can be both more realistic and more nuanced. But of course, that depends on the synth manufacturer.
But whether you use soft or hardware synths, MIDI is thousands of times more editable than recorded audio.
I admit, the Real Tracks sound great. But, IMO, with a good synth, the sounds can be 95% as good as the RT, and with the increased editing ability of MIDI, the final song can be much, much better.
I was thinking of on-PC production, where the best results come with quite some tinkering/tuning.
For live playing, I send the MIDI to my Kawai or an SD1000, for that ~0 latency.
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MIDI definitely has more editing possibilities. I'm a MIDIot fossil from WAY back...
But to recap previous posts, plus a couple of additional thoughts...
Melodyne Studio can edit individual notes in RealTracks. Not the same as MIDI, but tasks like changing chord lead voicing or otherwise fixing a note in a chord are super easy and transparent.
If you find a RealTrack you want to edit, you can TRY editable RealTracks, OR you can move the BiaB MIDI chart to a MIDI editor and do whatever you want with it. Works best with keyboards in my experience.
RealTrack acoustic pianos often sound "blurry" to me, probably due to (tiny) audio stretching artifacts. Definitely try the MIDI chart tip above for those if you're not happy.
BiaB MIDI guitars NEVER sound ok to me, especially strummed acoustics. There are some other programs that do these better than BiaB. But unless you have one of those, stay away from BiaB MIDI guitars. (That's not controversial, is it?)
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Two newer midi possible midi solutions available in Band-in-a-Box are MidiSuperTracks and Microcholds.
There is a video Peter Gannon made sometime in the 2010's era where he demonstrates replacing a RealTrack for a bar or two with midi and a virtual instrument. It should be pretty easy to do by creating the virtual instrument on an empty track then using bar settings to mute the RealTrack and play the virtual instrument.
BiaB MIDI guitars NEVER sound ok to me, especially strummed acoustics.<...>
That depends on your synthesizer. MIDI has no sound, but triggers sounds in your synth. Some synths have better guitar sounds than others.
It also depends on the musician. Is the chord in a guitar-like inversion. Since BiaB choose the inversion to play, that can be fixed after exporting. Are the notes all played at the same time or in a strum pattern?
Also, there is something called "Home instrument bias". To a guitar player, the guitar sounds might never sound right, but for a casual listener or a horn player, those guitar parts might be just fine.
Playable RealTracks functionally convert a RealTrack into the equivalent of an Artist Performance File which is a form of a UserTrack to the BIAB program.
To users that know the nuances of editing midi, this mix of audio and midi creates an audio track made from a RealTrack that's been manipulated into a audio file indistinguishable from a live performance recording. Particularly when placed within a song mix. Unique as if one had played the piece.
I created a short piece using a mandolin that did not have RealChart and inserted the midi data from the guitar to have the two instruments play the same midi data.
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