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Pat Marr #58941 02/05/10 01:40 PM
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Pat nailed it. Record a new melody and a new solo, AND give the song a different name, such as "Weeping Git-Fiddle".


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Hey everyone...

how about whilst my guitar softly sooks...8)....LOL..


I have released two original albums...but I havent promoted them here..because I didnt feel it was the right place to do it...both of them had nothing what so ever to do with Band In A Box....

Onto my cover recordings.....

I built a new recording studio which was finished last November and whilst I was trying to learn the new room...I decided to record some covers for fun, thats what these are.

I really enjoy, just playing around in the studio...and covers are a great way to have something to play whilst you wait for the next original song to come along.

It also gives me a chance to work on my playing, singing, recording and mixing chops, and everytime you do something you learn something new.

I have been having so much fun with it, much more than I could have ever imagined...that I am actually toying with doing a complete covers album, this year, rather than write another original album..which is really quite a struggle...and usually takes 18 months to 2 years to complete...

Its a different mind set doing covers.....its not so serious...and precious...if that makes any sense?...In a way using Band In A Box, gives me the feeling of being a session player...with the freedom to come up with guitar and keyboard and vocal parts for the song, whilst playing with a bass player and drummer of a professional standard.

I have written songs based on other songs chord progressions, there wouldnt be too many songwriters who havent...8)...

I need to look into the licensing of covers...on my first album, I covered Bob Dylans Tangled Up In Blue, and got a mechanical licesnse for that, for X amount of copies of CD's to be pressed...but digital downloads I havent looked into...

I have my music (original) on ITunes, so that might be a path..

I also, thought, and I might be totally wrong here, that you could post things like this for academic reasons....as a method of teaching..but,....that could be baloney, and might also be a requirement of where the song is stored, on what server in which country etc...

In a way the internet is like the Wild West.


But, the bottom line is...I broke the T&C's for the PGMusic site, which i am sorry for, but thats completely my fault.

thanks again everyone

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Wiz

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As an example of how different a song can sound, even when the chords are the same:

the song DECEMBER by Collective Soul starts with the same pattern as While My Guitar Gently Weeps, but the melody and instrumentation are so different you might not even notice that the chords are basically the same.

Listen along and in your head sing the lyrics to the Beatles song. It works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6exsatE-DUk

The chords to the whole song aren't the same.. but I offer this as an example of how discretionary changes to a chord pattern can create a totally different feel.

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I did not realize he'd redone the entire tune like that.

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Now, that was pretty cool!


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Quote:

I have been having so much fun with it, (recording covers) much more than I could have ever imagined...that I am actually toying with doing a complete covers album, this year, rather than write another original album..which is really quite a struggle...and usually takes 18 months to 2 years to complete...

Its a different mind set doing covers.....its not so serious...and precious...if that makes any sense?...In a way using Band In A Box, gives me the feeling of being a session player...with the freedom to come up with guitar and keyboard and vocal parts for the song, whilst playing with a bass player and drummer of a professional standard.

I need to look into the licensing of covers...on my first album, I covered Bob Dylans Tangled Up In Blue, and got a mechanical licesnse for that, for X amount of copies of CD's to be pressed...but digital downloads I havent looked into...

Wiz




Wiz,

Good luck in all your ventures, both original and covers... I have great respect for your ability based on the stuff you have posted here. I suspect that what I haven't yet heard is even better. I find your work inspiring.

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thats a lovely thing to say Pat..thank you

cheers

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14. What is "Fair Use"?

Some unlicensed uses of copyrighted material may be considered "fair use" under Section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Act, which outlines factors to consider in determining fair uses of a copyrighted work. ( http://www.copyright.gov/title17/chapter01.pdf). Generally, this includes uses for educational purposes and for criticism or commentary (reviews in newspapers, for example.) "Fair use" does not include small quantity recordings or charity or religious organizations; nor does it exempt recordings that you are distributing without charge.

Unless you are sure that your usage falls under Section 107, you should obtain proper licenses for your recording.


That above text is what I was remembering.....

thats what I thought...for educational purposes...and criticism...

but,....that does not change the T&C requirements for this site...

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Hi Wiz,

Your work is absolutely top notch; brillliant. I'd join your fan club

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Ive used hundreds of backing tracks when performing eg Elvis,Bad Company etc and its always mentioned as "in the style of" now whether those companies have a license to do that Im not sure but if had to make a guess I believe they might have the said license Frank


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Wow, better than the original beatles..

what bass and bass effect did you use for this? How much reverb?

What DAW did you use?

Hope you can share the mixing and mastering of this song..

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Hi Wiz,
That was an excellent interpretation and great vocals - I really enjoyed it, thank you!

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Hi Mike Just listened ro a couple of your tracks and they sound great.Ive got a small recording studio(for songwriting) and listened to them through my Peavey PA system and the mix was really good.Cheers Frankie


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Hi Wiz,

One of my fave songs! I really enjoyed it, great sound, vocals and performance. Bella production! . You can be sure George is proud in the heaven and stopped his lawyer of take any actions....(not sure if here on land base too ...look out for yourself just in case) j/k

saludos!

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Hi Mike Just listened ro a couple of your tracks and they sound great.Ive got a small recording studio(for songwriting) and listened to them through my Peavey PA system and the mix was really good.Cheers Frankie




Hi Frankie, if this post was addressed to me, well, thank you kindly, Sir. If not, I apologize for being presumptious (wouldn't be the first time)! LOL!

Cheers,
Mike


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Wow, better than the original beatles..

what bass and bass effect did you use for this? How much reverb?

What DAW did you use?

Hope you can share the mixing and mastering of this song..




I am sorry I havent replied...I have gotten a new computer system and been getting everything up and running has been taking my time..not from problems (touch wood...8)...) but from fun...8)

Viva Le I mac...8)


anyways...to answer your question...the bass was BIAB, as far as effects go...IIRC it was the UAD-1 1176LN compressor and sonar EQ and that was it.

Reverbs are usually Impulse Responses...

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