Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 158
C
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
C
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 158
A question for those who have the BiaB Audiophile edition.

I've just received mine on the mini hard drive supplied by PG Music. Do you only connect the mini drive when you want to use BiaB or do you leave it connected all the time?

I think it may not be a good idea to leave it on all the time the computer is on unless it is connected to a switchable hub but I thought I'd ask what others do.

Thanks.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,732
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,732
I don't have Audiophile but do use the hard drive sent to me by PG on my laptop. I only plug the drive in while running BIAB/RB.




Steve

BIAB/RB 2022, Pro Tools 2020, Korg N5, JBL LSR 4328 Powered Monitors, AKG/Shure Mics.
PC: Win11 PRO, 4 TB M2 SSD, 2 TB HD, 128 GB Memory
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,040
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,040
I have two PCs using the audiophile files. On the production machine, I copied all the RealTracks and RealDrums to an internal drive. On the secondary machine, I just leave the PG Music drive plugged in all the time. I don't think there is any harm in doing so.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,318
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,318
My Audiophile drive is connected to a USB3 port continuously. Never had any issue.


BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
I had mine connected all the time but now it's on a seagate drive instead of the usual western digital it drops out now and then and each time you need to go in the settings and set the folders back to the external drive.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,954
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,954
It completely depends on what your preference is for storage and how you want to run the drive.

Here are the options:

If you want to run everything from the external HD, yes. You will need to have it plugged in. If you wish to run the main program on the internal HD but keep all the bigger files on the external HD and set up customer folders to that external HD, yes; it will need to be plugged in. If you put everything on the internal HD, then no. You don't need to have it plugged in.

We hope this helps!


Cheers,
Ember
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,318
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,318
Quote:
...If you put everything on the internal HD, then no. You don't need to have it plugged in...

Note however, that you will need about 1.4Tb of unused space on the destination drive if you prefer to copy.


BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,833
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,833
With my Audiophile version, I've installed the compressed-files version of BIAB on my hard drive and use that mostly. When I need the better quality audio for creating a project in my DAW, I hook up the USB drive and adjust the Realtracks' and Realdrums' locations.


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 32
C
CMJ Offline
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
C
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 32
are you using a pc/mac?
i'd like to know how this works?


CMJ
IdeaSound Studios
www.IdeaSound.us
Band in a Box 2020 Audiophile edition
Ableton Live Suite 10
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,318
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,318
Originally Posted By: CMJ
are you using a pc/mac?
i'd like to know how this works?

I'm pretty sure Noel is using Windows PC, but he will confirm, I'm sure.


BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I had mine connected all the time but now it's on a seagate drive instead of the usual western digital it drops out now and then and each time you need to go in the settings and set the folders back to the external drive.

Hi Pipeline, did you try in USB hub settings to disable power management?
Laptops often give problems due lack of more than one USB controller chip.
You could remove unused USB device drivers with USB deview. a very handy tool.
And yes, the formerly used USB 3.0 WD My passport harddisks from PGmusic drives were 2 classes better than the newer stuff.
The seagate model they sent last December i wouldn't dare to buy for my own use.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,040
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,040
Originally Posted By: CMJ
are you using a pc/mac?
i'd like to know how this works?

It works the same on either platform, and it works automatically. BIAB uses the audiophile files if it finds them, otherwise it uses the compressed files.

I’ve written quite a bit about this in the Tips and Tricks Forum. It’s the first sticky post.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
Originally Posted By: fiddler2007

Hi Pipeline, did you try in USB hub settings to disable power management?
Laptops often give problems due lack of more than one USB controller chip.
You could remove unused USB device drivers with USB deview. a very handy tool.
And yes, the formerly used USB 3.0 WD My passport harddisks from PGmusic drives were 2 classes better than the newer stuff.
The seagate model they sent last December i wouldn't dare to buy for my own use.


Thanks Fiddler, yes first thing I tried and have it in the port at the back, I just put last years Western Digital drive back in and it has not dropped out once since.
I have this years seagate unplugged as I was worried it would crash and loose all the data before I could get out again to buy a Western Digital to copy it to.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 158
C
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
C
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 158
Thanks everyone for your replies, very helpful.

To install the audiophile onto my internal hard drive, do I just copy it directly onto my drive or do I need to actually install it.

I realise it's around 1.4TB: I do have plenty of free space for it. I just need to know the best way of going about actually getting it from the drive supplied by PG Music onto mine.

Thanks again.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,040
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,040
Do the actual install routine.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Pipeline, maybe your drive is faulty, i had once a replacement sent by PG, but that was a faulty WD.

I kept all the old WD My passports, still use them for other things.
The quality of last years drive and being forced to buy the updates that way, and not being able to download them is one of the reasons i am not gonna buy 2021 Audiophile this year.

Classicman: Copying the lot takes time, i usually do that with Teracopy, as it verifies and shuts down my PC when it's finished.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
It could be faulty I'll just have to wait until I get another 2GB drive to copy it to.
Yeah, all my WD drives get STUFF on them so I can't wipe one to copy it to.
I suppose PG are trying to keep the price down as most of the upgrade price is the hardware and the weight of the seagate I think is lighter for sending.
I think 1.5TB is a lot to download though it would be smaller with only the new RealTrack/Drums rather than ALL including wma/m4a I think they are about 130GB ? (maybe 15-20GB new ones ?) so that maybe something to look at if you don't need the compressed files.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Well, wav makes a difference, and why not torrent the updated wav files only on some PG server? wma is already in the yearly 'normal' download.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
I plugged the seagate back in if my calculations are correct,
all RealTracks for 2020 (going by folder date) including Direct Input 73GB that's the collective folder size, I -7% for the compressed files.
Then I went to do Drums by the folder date but I think they may have updated some old ones so that maybe an issue with the drums and realtracks, having to download any updated tracks ???

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
Originally Posted By: fiddler2007
Pipeline, maybe your drive is faulty, i had once a replacement sent by PG, but that was a faulty WD.

I kept all the old WD My passports, still use them for other things.
The quality of last years drive and being forced to buy the updates that way, and not being able to download them is one of the reasons i am not gonna buy 2021 Audiophile this year.

Classicman: Copying the lot takes time, i usually do that with Teracopy, as it verifies and shuts down my PC when it's finished.


Yes it's faulty ! I took it out of the USB 3 case and used another and it still dropped out, I connected it internally to the sata and it still drops out.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,323
Posts777,758
Members39,619
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Davin, Rays31, Richard Manningham, Floyd17230, JerryL
39,619 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 147
DC Ron 105
WaoBand 98
rsdean 95
zedd 84
Today's Birthdays
Andyman
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5