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Is there a way to drop/save/render/expand a multitrack as separate tracks.

One of my tracks in the Mixer is a multitrack of Clarinet, Trombone and Trumpet and I'd like to drop these into my DAW (Reaper) as individual tracks.

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Is there a way to drop/save/render/expand a multitrack as separate tracks.

One of my tracks in the Mixer is a multitrack of Clarinet, Trombone and Trumpet and I'd like to drop these into my DAW (Reaper) as individual tracks.

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I don't believe that is possible from the BIAB side. The BIAB outputted track wav file will have all three instruments in it. But that does not stop you from separating the sections of the wav file in Reaper to put each instrument on a different track.


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I've been puzzling over this.

After looking through the program and reading the manual, I cannot think of any way that this can be done.


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Originally Posted By: Noel96
I've been puzzling over this.

After looking through the program and reading the manual, I cannot think of any way that this can be done.


Noel, it can be done but Dan has the correct answer. Doing it from BIAB is both tedious and repetitive.

But to ease your puzzlement:

Convert the track to Audio
Import that original and complete audio track and from the audio editor isolate the first instrument and erase the rest of the instruments
Export and save the first instrument clip
Import the original track again
Isolate the second instrument and erase the other instrument
Export and save the second instrument clip
Import the original track again
Isolate....

Get the idea?

You can also select the bars of each individual instrument and export the selection as a WAV file. For instance if bars 1-4 are sax and bars 5-8 guitar; Selecting bars 1-4 should only export the sax, repeating the process to bars 5-8 should export only the guitar. I created a file with Medleys and did this process and got mixed results. Literally. I had 16 bars changing instruments every 4 bars and each instrument selection I exported had two bars of one instrument and 2 bars of another.

Dan's method will work flawlessly every time.


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Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the above.

I must apologise because I didn't go into detail over what I was trying to wrap my head around. What was causing my brain to to do u-turns was how to save RTs that were all set to play simultaneously in a medley.

After reading your reply, I'm guessing that it's not possible to somehow split them apart into single tracks.

I hope that you are staying safe with all this COVID-19 stuff that's happening.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my thoughts.
Noel


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We were doing fine with the Covid-19 until just a few minutes ago I received a text from my daughter there's a serious outbreak in town. We live in the country on a farm but she's urging us to stay out of town for now.

There have recently been protests down at the beach and evidently a lot of people from our hometown traveled to participate and ignored social distancing --

But -- you are correct, there's no way to break out simultaneous playing RT's on a single track. In some cases, even when a Medley is programmed for each instrument to play sequentially, the transition bar will have one instrument fading in while the other is fading in and the two instruments play simultaneously for the transition bar.


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Charlie,

Thank you for clarifying that.

Here in Australia, we've had just 102 deaths in a population of 25 million. How I see it is that social distancing and only going out for essentials when needed was the most successful tool that allowed us to stay on track. We didn't use masks. Also, we didn't associate with anyone other than our own household for around 2 months. This included funerals and weddings. Only 5 people could attend weddings -- including the officials -- and only 10 people could go to funerals.

As a school teacher, I worked from home using MS Teams and taught classes online.

Right now, we are throttling back on our restrictions. I've physically been back at work for two weeks. During those two weeks, my school has gradually increased its student presence. As of yesterday, we were back with everyone onboard.

Just this week saw restaurants re-open to sit-down service with strict social distancing measures in place.

These are very strange times. I sincerely wish you and your family the best outcome.

Regards,
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I'm also a primary teacher and we start back teaching on Monday. I know it's not popular, but I strongly recommend face masks. We all wear them in Hong Kong, except for a few stubborn expatriates, and it does seem to reduce the contagion. You'd need to read up on it to get the full picture. The locals here are hard wired to wear masks post SARS which really shook folk up as the mortality rate was way worse than Covid.


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<<< I'm guessing that it's not possible to somehow split them apart into single tracks. >>>

Noel, your remark left me wondering if it might be possible because of the ability of the Medley feature to hard pan each track left and right so if the render was a stereo track or instead, two mono tracks.

So I created a quick chord chart and selected two rhythm guitars to simultaneously play on a track with each hard panned to the max max amount of 64 and -64 and rendered the song. I exported the track and opened the audio in Audacity to examine the WAV and also to split the file into two mono tracks.

The result is the songs playing simultaneously are merged into a stereo track and not as two mono tracks so they can't be split. Interesting question I hadn't thought of before your comment.


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I'm also a primary teacher and we start back teaching on Monday. I know it's not popular, but I strongly recommend face masks. We all wear them in Hong Kong, except for a few stubborn expatriates, and it does seem to reduce the contagion. You'd need to read up on it to get the full picture. The locals here are hard wired to wear masks post SARS which really shook folk up as the mortality rate was way worse than Covid.


Most folks here have abandoned masks and last night our local news channel featured interviews with tourists from up north who traveled south to escape the much stricter safeguard regulations there and they refuse to wear masks down here. We have masks and do wear them in businesses and other places that require them.


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Charlie,

The hard panning thought is clever thinking! I wonder why it didn't work out. It certainly sounds like it should have done.

Thanks for trying!
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Thanks for your info Charlie.

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Import that original and complete audio track and from the audio editor isolate the first instrument and erase the rest of the instruments
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Presumably you mean to import that original and complete audio track back into BiaB and use the audio editor there. I tried that but I can't see any way of isolating the instruments.

Thanks.

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Thanks for your info Charlie.

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Import that original and complete audio track and from the audio editor isolate the first instrument and erase the rest of the instruments
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Presumably you mean to import that original and complete audio track back into BiaB and use the audio editor there. I tried that but I can't see any way of isolating the instruments.

Thanks.


I was just sharing the process with Noel and explaining how it can be done in BIAB if the soloist instruments are playing sequentially. If you've programmed the soloists to play simultaneously, the file is a stereo mix rather than two mono tracks so regardless if you split the stereo track into two mono tracks, the instruments remain mixed on both tracks and are not isolated from each other where I hoped if they had been panned hard left and hard right, they could be split into two mono tracks.

No matter. It's not the recommended way to do it, MusicStudent Dan tells the best method. Export the entire track to a DAW or Audio editor and it's super easy and fast.


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