Thank you for the update to this wonderful product! With this latest update, however, I've been experiencing periodic freezes and crashes.
- The first time I launch Band-in-a-Box after a system reboot I get a message stating that it has changed the default sample rate of my MOTU M Series ASIO Driver from 48k to 44.1k. That's fine, but it seems that if I click anywhere on the BIAB interface without waiting for at least 30 seconds after it has started it freezes and crashes.
- I'm working on a project previously created with BIAB v2020, but when I try to play it after adding new measures to the project BIAB instead displays an hourglass and freezes.
No crash messages in either case; BIAB simply freezes, obliging me to open the Windows Task Manager to shut it down.
Could this be ASIO related? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Band-in-a-Box v2021 (809) MOTU M2 USB Audio Interface firmware v1.02 MOTU M Series ASIO Driver v4.0.8.4479 Windows 10 Home v2004
Last edited by XilburQost; 12/25/2008:41 AM.
Windows 10 Home v2004 MOTU M2 USB Audio Interface firmware v1.02 MOTU M Series ASIO Driver v4.0.8.4479
A few suggestions: When it crashes, does it produce a crash report file that you could attached to an email and send to PG Music Support?
The problem may be ASIO related, as you have suggested. Try setting the Audio Driver Settings default to MME or WAS, and restarting BiaB.
Try returning to Factory Settings (Options menu).
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Thank you for the suggestions, VideoTrack. I tried reset to factory settings and also both MME and WAS alternatives, but the problem remains for this project:
- Unedited, when I hit the play button the project displays an hourglass for about 10 seconds before playing. That's slow, but workable.
- When I add more measures to the project and then hit the play button the hourglass displays infinitely long, effectively freezing BIAB.
It's a very simple project.
No crash error generated by BIAB for me to send; I'd be happy to send the project file if you like. Thanks again.
****** Song Summary ************* Title: Asunder File:BnB Asunder BUILD 12.SGU Key=Dm , Tempo 120, Length (m:s)=11:18 No intro. 24 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 24. Repeat x14 choruses No Melody No Soloist track. Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0, Style is ANSWERS.STY (Answers - New Age - Smooth Jazz) Style MIDI Instruments are : Strings (49), Pad-New Age (89), 26/1 12-Strings Guitar, GM2 Bank 1, Pad-Bowed (93), MIDI Drums :9 Room Drum Kit (9)
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UPDATE: I changed the style for this project and while there's a long pause before playing the file (30+ seconds), it does play. I haven't encountered this problem on any of my other projects.
Last edited by XilburQost; 12/25/2009:14 AM.
Windows 10 Home v2004 MOTU M2 USB Audio Interface firmware v1.02 MOTU M Series ASIO Driver v4.0.8.4479
****** Song Summary ************* Title: Asunder File:BnB Asunder BUILD 12.SGU Key=Dm , Tempo 120, Length (m:s)=11:18 No intro. 24 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 24. Repeat x14 choruses*******************
That is a long song by BIAB standards. 12 x 14 = 168 bars. Does that exceed any limits??
Yes, a long song, but it shouldn't be restricted by the existing 255 bar limit.
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
****** Song Summary ************* Title: Asunder File:BnB Asunder BUILD 12.SGU Key=Dm , Tempo 120, Length (m:s)=11:18 No intro. 24 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 24. Repeat x14 choruses*******************
That is a long song by BIAB standards. 12 x 14 = 168 bars. Does that exceed any limits??
It's long because it has a lot of repeats--I wrote it to improvise guitar over.
I think I've fixed the issue for this project. Here's what I did:
1) Started a fresh BIAB project. 2) Changed the key and tempo to match the problem project. 3) Imported the problem project by selecting File > Import > Import MGU Song
I can now add measures without issue. Maybe the problem file was corrupt? Thanks again everyone for your responses.
Windows 10 Home v2004 MOTU M2 USB Audio Interface firmware v1.02 MOTU M Series ASIO Driver v4.0.8.4479
As a further thought, try disabling this feature (no guarantees, and you can re-enable again if there's no improvement):
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
OK, great. Glad you got it working OK. Yes, possibly a corrupt file (?)
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
As a further thought, try disabling this feature (no guarantees, and you can re-enable again if there's no improvement):
Thanks for the tip. RealTracks sound quality is incredible, but currently I don't employ them. I choose MIDI-only styles because everything I create in BAIB I then export to MIDI so I have MIDI tracks to use in Reaper.
Do RealTracks play a role in MIDI-only styles?
Windows 10 Home v2004 MOTU M2 USB Audio Interface firmware v1.02 MOTU M Series ASIO Driver v4.0.8.4479
Not that I'm aware of. There is a setting to substitute Real Drums for MIDI drums. If you have that unchecked, then everything should be MIDI.
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
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