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Well, just in case anyone here thinks I am a 'gun fanatic' I am not. I don't go shooting for sport, don't own a ton of guns (just a couple in fact), and shoot them just enough to know they are working and keep myself comfortable with their use. I actually enjoy my bow much better! I am interested in the topic though, as I did learn things from this thread. Some of what I learned was numbers and some was getting an idea of how we are viewed from other places and their feelings on it. No hard feelings here. 
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here's another interesting link... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLsi0Ialvxkit is part 1 of 9, follow the series for the whole presentation. Don't give up on this too soon. It's pretty long, but it gets absolutely riveting toward the end. The boring stuff in the beginning establishes the credibility of this guys testimony. It is an interview from 1985 with an ex-kgb agent. He outlines what his job was in terms of undermining other governments during the cold war. The statements he makes in this interview are chilling. At the time of the interview in 1985, the things he was saying seemed crazy, but from today's perspective, it is evident that what he said is exactly what has happened. Part of the plan was gun control. Wonder why...?
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Hi Pat, Plenty of confused thinking here. 1/ I was simply responding to Bob’s quote: Quote:
So it all boils down to a group of people wanting to take the rights of another group of people away.”
As you can see, this is expressed in terms of rights and not choices. I replied in kind.
2/ RIGHTS are indeed guaranteed by law, but that is not at all the same as saying that a particular right – in this case the right to own firearms – is not open to discussion. Of course it is. That’s one of the things democracy is all about. Laws come and go. They change. What do you think your legislators do all day?
Even declarations of rights, and, yes, constitutions, change – precisely as a result of such debate. Look closely and you will find that the Right to Bear Arms is, itself, an amendment.
I’ll leave you to compile your own lists of rights that have been conferred, amended, or withdrawn over time by laws, or higher declarations, in response to changes in society, changes in public opinion. etc.
3/ (and here we digress a little) There are many schools of thought as to what the function of the law is, but they all focus, obviously enough, on determining what is and what is not legal. Determining penalties comes much later in the process.
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Plenty of confused thinking here.
I'd have to agree, but probably not in the same way you meant it
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So it all boils down to a group of people wanting to take the rights of another group of people away.”
As you can see, this is expressed in terms of rights and not choices. I replied in kind.
But that is not how I interpret Bob's comment, neither do I think that is how he intended it.
His point (I believe) is that the law currently allows both groups to have their respective choice. Every body *ought* to be happy, but that is not the case. Why? Because one group cannot be happy until the other group is forced to conform to the "no gun" choice, and the only way for that to happen is for one groups rights to be denied.
Most of the arguments here argue the LEGALITY of both choices... (and that is a fair discussion)
You argued the VALIDITY of the two choices, and that is not our argument at all...(though it *is* YOUR argument. In a nutshell, it seems to me that you believe your choice is superior to the other choice, and therefore the pro gun choice should be disallowed by law. And it is precisely this dictatorial approach to resolving issues that the conservative arguments resist.
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RIGHTS are indeed guaranteed by law, but that is not at all the same as saying that a particular right – in this case the right to own firearms – is not open to discussion. Of course it is. That’s one of the things democracy is all about. Laws come and go. They change. What do you think your legislators do all day?
except that the USA is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic. My point is to derail the part of the discussion that elevates personal opinion above law. If you get taken to court over an infraction, your opinion doesn't matter to the judge. It is settled by the law, period, there is no discussion.
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Even declarations of rights, and, yes, constitutions, change – precisely as a result of such debate. Look closely and you will find that the Right to Bear Arms is, itself, an amendment.
which is precisely why the citizens need to diligently remain involved in the political process so some slick-talking politician doesn't crawl in under the door and change everything.
("this is the greatest nation on earth.. help me change it!")
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There are many schools of thought as to what the function of the law is, but they all focus, obviously enough, on determining what is and what is not legal. Determining penalties comes much later in the process.
ultimately, all a law CAN do is declare a penalty. Without a penalty there may as well be no law. Unenforced laws don't change behavior. Many would argue that penalties don't either. But the only real difference between a traffic intersection that has a stop sign and one that doesn't is the penalty for driving through the intersection without stopping.
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By the way, I don't own a gun. But I support the right to own and bear arms.
I also choose not to smoke, but I support smoker's rights. To me the crux of all these discussions is that one point of view empowers everybody, and the other point of view seeks to remove rights from the other group.
Our national embarrassment is not in the guns, it is in the lack of enforcement due to politically incorrect reasoning.
After the psychologist in Ft Hood shot all thse people, the conservatives were all saying the obvious ways it could have been prevented. (The list is long. I won't elaborate because anybody with common sense doesn't need to see it, and anybody without common sense wouldn't believe it if they saw it)
Meanwhile, the other camp was saying things like
"it would have been wrong to profile him"
"he was misunderstood"
"people were mean to him"
"who would have ever guessed..?"
duh.
Liberty is only dangerous when responsibility is lacking
responsibility is enhanced by morality and the enforcement of laws
You can't eliminate one without affecting the other.
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I think a lot of people who don't live in the US get the wrong idea when they hear terms like "open carry" and "conceal and carry permits".
I have lived in an "open carry" state for the last 30 years. I have NEVER seen anyone openly carry a firearm. But it's legal if they do as long as they're not a felon.
I have a conceal and carry permit. The last time I "carried" was probably 4 years ago when I was riding my 4 wheeler in the woods. Most people I know who have the permit seldom, if ever, carry their firearm. So even the folks who legally can, seldom do, with some exceptions of course.
But the criminals don't know who is carrying and who isn't. If I knew I was going to be in a high crime area, I would exercise my right to conceal and carry.
It is nice that my son and I can take our firearms, load them into the car, drive to the shooting range, walk up to the stall next to a state trooper or county deputy, set down a satchel full of handguns and ammo, lay the rifles and shotguns down, and the only questions I get from the trooper or deputy is "how do you like that Smith & Wesson 38 Special? May I shoot it?"
I know this seems strange to a lot you that don't live in the US and even strange to some of you who do live here. But it's part of the American culture and our history. You don't have to agree with it. But don't villify those of us who choose to exercise our rights.
And by the way, I'm not "fascinated" with guns. I'm "fascinated" with guitars. If you want to see me get excited, pull out a 1942 Gibson L5 guitar! My eyes will light up like a Christmas tree! LOL.
Bob
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Pat, Quote:
But that is not how I interpret Bob's comment, neither do I think that is how he intended it.
His point (I believe) is that the law currently allows both groups to have their respective choice. Every body *ought* to be happy, but that is not the case. Why? Because one group cannot be happy until the other group is forced to conform to the "no gun" choice, and the only way for that to happen is for one groups rights to be denied.
You hit the nail right on the head! Nuff said.
Bob
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Pat, Quote:
So it all boils down to a group of people wanting to take the rights of another group of people away.”
As you can see, this is expressed in terms of rights and not choices. I replied in kind.
It would be dangerous if we started to second guess what other forum users meant.
I responded to the words actually written by Bob. If it turns out he actually meant something different, then of course my comment is invalid.
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His point (I believe) is that the law currently allows both groups to have their respective choice. Every body *ought* to be happy, but that is not the case.
Why? Because one group cannot be happy until the other group is forced to conform to the "no gun" choice, and the only way for that to happen is for one groups rights to be denied.
Again, you’re missing the point big time.
The citizen who does not wish to carry a gun and does not do so represents no sort of threat to the gun carrier. The reverse is not true for the reasons I listed above. (post #266720)
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it seems to me that you believe your choice is superior to the other choice, and therefore the pro gun choice should be disallowed by law.
I wouldn’t use loaded terms like ‘superior’ with its moral connotations. I would keep the debate to what is or is not effective in reducing unwanted violent deaths.
The stats quoted below show unequivocally and irrefutably that, in terms of intentional homicides, the USA is well over 3 times more dangerous than the UK.
What exactly is your argument? that without the private citizens’ right to bear arms you would not be at 5.4, per 100,000 but somewhere around the Mexican level (10) or higher perhaps?
You may be right, but to my way of thinking it is an argument which defies rationality.
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The comparative figures which interest us are as follows (homicides per 100,000 population)
USA: 5.4
Northern Ireland: 2.5
Scotland: 2.1
England and Wales: 1.4
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Canada: 1.8
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USA is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic.
I’m sorry, but you’ve lost me completely here.
‘Democracy’ means (very broadly) that it is the people who decide who they are governed by using some form of fair voting system. Surely, this applies to the US of A?
The only democratic republic I am aware of is the DRC, not much of a model for anyone!
I fully agree with you that if you have broken a law, any law, you can argue your opinion of said law until you are blue in the face. It will make no difference to the outcome of your legal process, and rightly so.
But this is not at all what was said, which was that no discussion should be permitted on this subject.
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which is precisely why the citizens need to diligently remain involved in the political process so some slick-talking politician doesn't crawl in under the door and change everything.
("this is the greatest nation on earth.. help me change it!")
But isn’t it the greatest nation on earth precisely because it changes to adapt to new circumstances and greater knowledge and enlightenment? Whether slick-talking or not, a politician will only be able to change the laws if he has been duly authorised to do so by the electors.
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But why do you care about our laws that don't affect you?
1/ ..because I’m curious. This is the first time I have heard it suggested here that there are issues which only forum members from a particular state should comment on.
2/..because the USA is the greatest nation on earth (see above). It is possible that I will visit the country as a tourist at some point, and if I do so, I would rather have a less than 5.4 in 100,000 chance of meeting a violent end there.
3/..I would welcome anyone and everyone’s views on both my native country (UK) and my adopted country (France)
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Nobody's mind has been changed in this thread.
Mine has – I feel I have a better understanding of why so many American citizens support this historically entrenched but ultimately counter-productive right.
If you’re mind is not altered by the weight of factual argument (US intentional homicides per 100,000 of the population vs. those in other western countries), then –I’m afraid for you anyway- there has been little point to the discussion.
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I have to say this is by far the best thread I've seen on this subject in many years. We used to have some bomb throwers who would crap all over something like this and kill it but this time it really is a good discussion among friends. Of course this is one of the top 2 or 3 most divisive issues around, yet there's a lot of good reasoned points being made so I just want to say, good job guys.
Nothing to do with music but it's a good diversion anyway.
Bob
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Alcohol and vehicles kill way more people in the US than firearms.
You can demonize me all ya want, I do not care, I cannot and will not give up my God-given right to be a free man.
And there is a period on the end of the above sentence.
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Mglinert,
I guess I’m going to “try” to do the same as Bob, (aka jazzmammal), and exit this thread.
It is humorous and enlightening to see people from other countries stick their noses into another countries business and get all worked about an issue that doesn’t concern them.
If you don’t like the laws of the USA, don’t come here. Don’t buy our products.
But don’t try to tell us how to live! You don’t understand being an American any more than I understand being from the UK or France.
The main reason that the USA exists is because they didn’t want foreign influence or domination. We still don’t want that. We never will. But we will always be the best ally you've ever had.
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There are many differences between the two countries, considering ...
Not just the gun issues, even things like the squatting that goes on there really intrigues me. How the problem is handled there, it seems like a lot of tolerance is required.. which can be commended on one side, but not understood at all on the other.
So I guess we will both look at each other from across the pond and watch the events unfold.
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Alcohol and vehicles kill way more people in the US than firearms.
Of course they do, Mac. Private swimming pools too, I think. But the point is this.
The primary purpose of a firearm is to shoot it at someone (or, perhaps, at something).
The primary person of the other killers is something very different in each case.
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You can demonize me all ya want, I do not care, I cannot and will not give up my God-given right to be a free man.
And there is a period on the end of the above sentence.
That’s fine with me, and very much as I suspected – we’re not dealing with rational argument here but something that goes far deeper.
I still don’t altogether see:
- how being able to shoot a small piece of metal at another human being is a synonym for freedom
- how a Right enshrined in an Act passed by the US Congress in 1791 was actually conferred by God
…but I’m working on it.
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mglinert, Quote:
I still don’t altogether see:
- how being able to shoot a small piece of metal at another human being is a synonym for freedom
- how a Right enshrined in an Act passed by the US Congress in 1791 was actually conferred by God
…but I’m working on it.
As long as you're "working on it", and not condemning something you don't understand because of cultural differences, then all is good.
Most Americans don't like being told what to do, even by our own government.
The Constitution and it's Amendments are meant to not only spell out the the rights of the citizens, but mainly to spell out the rights and limitations of the government.
Bob
P.S. By the way, I've never shot a small piece of metal at another human being. Neither have most people who own a gun.
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Thanks Bob, Quote:
It is humorous and enlightening to see people from other countries stick their noses into another countries business and get all worked about an issue that doesn’t concern them.
I’m sure the USA would never stick its nose into another country’s business!
But now is not the time to widen this thread further.
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Most Americans don't like being told what to do, even by our own government.
The Constitution and it's Amendments are meant to not only spell out the the rights of the citizens, but mainly to spell out the rights and limitations of the government.
That is a very important point, and one that give me plenty to think about. Thanks.
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If you don’t like the laws of the USA, don’t come here. Don’t buy our products.
Now that’s not very hospitable. I neither like nor dislike the laws of the USA.
My original intention was to report that this particular one seemed very strange to someone from a UK background (post #266341).
I knew nothing about the issue when I wrote that and next to nothing now.
However, what I have read suggests that this right is not only strange it is also counter-productive.
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But don’t try to tell us how to live!
I didn’t – and I'm sorry if you interpreted my comments in this way.
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You don’t understand being an American any more than I understand being from the UK or France.
Absolutely. Hence the value of this type of exchange.
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..we will always be the best ally you've ever had.
This is most definitely the case…and long may it continue.
Can we get back to the music now?
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mglinert, Quote:
Can we get back to the music now?
I actually have BIAB fired up in the background. It's been interrupted only by taking a break to participate in this exchange. LOL.
Bob
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Marc, I think one thing you don't grasp is what is called 'checks and balances' over here.
Whether you trust the government or not, our system was set up so that every part of the government has another part that has just enough power to keep it in check ( or prevent it from abuse). This is what checks and balances are. The constitution and amendments were written (a lot of us believe) to make sure the government could not step on the rights of individuals or states. One of the first things a government would do in order to opress its people would be to disarm them. So making that a basic right tends to keep that problem at bay.
Not trying to be silly, but what keeps the government of the UK from opressing its people at this point? If the government set militia on the streets and said you were all going to pay this tax and give up your homes? This is one of the things the right to bear arms guards against.I am not saying that is ever going to happen in either country, as I tend to believe people are good (in general) but a lot of history tells us otherwise. So we were given this right (and in a sense a responsibility) to be able to keep the government in check, be it state or federal, the constitution says we can not be forcibly disarmed as law abiding citizens.
I am sure accidental gun deaths are more common (obviously) when guns are around. There is a responsibility that goes along with gun ownership. However, in this country if the general public was unarmed, the criminals would not be. UK is an island with pretty port control. We have thousands of miles that border other countries, so illegal guns would be here within the hour of being outlawed. Just as we see weapons being found and used in crimes that are already outlawed (like automatic weapons, etc). Just another reason you will likely never see the gun control work here.
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mglinert, Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you don’t like the laws of the USA, don’t come here. Don’t buy our products. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Now that’s not very hospitable. I neither like nor dislike the laws of the USA.
That's not meant to be either "hospitable" nor "inhospitable". If I ever visit France, or Spain, or the UK, I won't try to tell them their Constitution is wrong. I may complain about the customs coming in, the food, or whatever, but I won't tell them the way they run thier country is wrong. I'll take it in and try to learn from it.
Nor will I expect them to cater to my American sensibilities or needs. I will be, after all, in THEIR country. As a visitor.
Bob
P.S. I probably won't complain about the food, because I love trying new dishes. Even if I don't like them! But odds are....I will like them. 
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..I would welcome anyone and everyone’s views on both my native country (UK) and my adopted country (France)
No problem Marc, I know the history of the Statue of Liberty and going back even further, if it wasn't for France, this country wouldn't even exist. There can be disagreements here and there but compared to the last 220 years or so, they're nothing. As for the Brits, of course we're still the closest allies in the world. And, I lived in Canada for 12 years and outside of the weather loved it. It's all good.
Bob
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the weather in Canada...NO HOW dare you LOL.
Interesting and good thread. Sober debate is good.
Funny no one jumped in on my analysis of where the gun crime is in the US.
On the other hand due to how the net works I'm not saying anything more than I have bows.
I have no animosity towards anyone who had another view. But it needs to be reasonable. Most people do not understand that most of the Canadians from 1760 to 1800 came from the US. The ran to Canada. Our biggest period of immigration. I'll let you figure that out. At the same time we had abolished slavery. And let those people into the country.
Some make fun of me when I repeat what people on this forum called us. A right wing canuck is a communist in many areas of the US. So be it.
I re-iterate that the US is becoming a fortress. OK, why?
I have been in a lot of bad situations, fallen through burning floors, down stairs to burning basements, flashovers, explosions, but I was the most scared in Flint Michigan, first due to the bad street I drove down, and second because the cops pulled multiple guns on me for running out of gas on I75. I almost pooed my pants. And 2 kids and the wife the car, got handcuffed and searched. Here the cop would have walked up and asked what was wrong. Just watch the show COPS, none of that happens here.
A step back is required. Sanity is sanity. OK so if we extract the gang bangers from the shooting things in Canada, 2 or 3 people die of gunshots every year. And a dozen with knives.
I know you don't believe me, but I don't have keys for my house. Until last year when I got new patio doors, 3 of the 4 doors didn't even lock.
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There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Mac® to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!
Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.
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Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!
Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!
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Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!
Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.
Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.
If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!
202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!
With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!
Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
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