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Hey Y'all,

Don't laugh.

So, in Real Band, I have selected the "also generate real chart feature" and it converts everything to Midi except for drums.

What is up with that? Does anyone know how to do this?


I can do a work around with a BIAB export to XML but that takes too long.

User error????

How does it work. I just need an easy way to turn Real Drums into midi.

Thanks and don't laugh at me!!!

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Hi David. I'm not laughing at all.

I had thought that one of the features of BIAB 2020 (or was it 2021) was that all the RealDrums now had notation. My understanding of that is that you can see music notation in the edit modes, and just drag a track to a DAW to get the MIDI.

I could be wrong on this. Also, I do not use RealBand so someone else can address this.

Question, just trying to understand: when you say 'export to HTML' do you mean Music XML?


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In another thread, this is what I posted..

"The RealBand help system says "RealDrums with an "Ntn" in the # column of the RealDrums Picker dialog can display notation." So I picked a RealDrum that had Ntn in the # column and generated. I also have the "When generating RealTracks also generate a RealChart" box checked (I don't see anything that separates out RealTrack instruments versions drum/percussion instruments).

I get the generated wave form, but do not get a RealChart for it."

Clearly this needs fixing in RealBand.

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Tried this just the other day. Took the RD midi chart provided in the BIAB-VST and inserted it into EZDrummer2 as a example groove to generate a song. A nice RD midi track playing jazz brushes groove turned into a something that sounded like a 10 year old playing his first drum kit. A hot mess. I suspect some sort of drum map is needed which is not what I was interested in doing.


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If you want a long way to do this, you could send the RealDrum .WAV audio to Melodyne and convert to MIDI there.




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Matt,

Sorry. Brain cramp, yes I meant XML!!!

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I will look to see if there is a notation in drums that indicate there is notation, but I thought ALL were supposed to have it by now and that was a feature of 2021.

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Maybe time to review the manual grin


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Tried this just the other day. Took the RD midi chart provided in the BIAB-VST and inserted it into EZDrummer2 as a example groove to generate a song. A nice RD midi track playing jazz brushes groove turned into a something that sounded like a 10 year old playing his first drum kit. A hot mess. I suspect some sort of drum map is needed which is not what I was interested in doing.


If available in EZDrummer2 you have to select GM as the drum map. Many MIDI drum sources have multiple drum maps incorporated in them, thus you just select the one that you need and the program will automatically convert to that map.


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Ok,

I am getting somewhere.

I made a "style" in BIAB that only has drums and exported "Mod Country" as a midi. (Saved as.)

In Sforzando player with "BIAB" rock drums it is not too bad. It sounds horrible in Session Drummer though, but I may need to experiment.

However in Real Band, it will not generate a Real Chart, though I know it should. I think that is a glitch, because yes, it does show up in notation in BIAB.

What does the "x" mean by the way in the drum picker? Don't laugh. The other columns seem intuitive.

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Maybe time to review the manual grin


This is not very helpful...

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I do it using the drag'n drop function from BIAB to RB.
Using a drum style with notation, drag the drums from the Mixer panel or from the top panel into the MID section of the drag'n drop area at top left just below the Master. After a couple of seconds the MID section will turn green, you can the drag this to a track in RB, then Edit/Midi/Split Midi Drums will separate the drums into individual tracks.

Hope this helps

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Whoah!

Cool!!!!!!!

Thanks man!!!

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Happy to help,

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Great tip there Vantage! How about posting to the TIPS section?

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This one tip has changed my life!!

Wicked!!!

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Here we go now. Look put world!!!

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Does this trick only work in Real Band?

I tried the same approach and get less wonderful results in Logic.


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Does this trick only work in Real Band?

I tried the same approach and get less wonderful results in Logic.




I don't know about things on the Mac side but this technique works perfectly with a Window's version of Studio One Pro 5.


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I have only used it in RB, but I suspect you should be able to drag the MIDI to any DAW, but may not be able to split the drums into different tracks. The synth/sound library available in the DAW will also influence the sound.

A possible work around is to do what drums editing you need in RB then save the various tracks to your DAW as WAV files.

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Here's what I get for my multiple attempts.

BIAB appears to create a midi file when I drop it on the left upper mid area.
I can drag said creation to my daw (Logic).
At best I get a 1or 2 bar midi sequence of 1 drum. I can repeat it like a loop but its the same 1 or 2 bar pattern.

I'm pretty much a midi neophyte.

Some questions.
Should this work for all RealDrum Tracks or only specific types?
How does one tell?
What settings in BIAB need be made (if any) before attempting the conversion.
Seems like there are a lot of options regarding forcing real drums to midi, or changing to midi drums, etc.

If there are any Logic users who have done this successfully, can you chime in on the Logic side requirements. I'd like to give it a go, if possible.

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Should this work for all RealDrum Tracks or only specific types?
How does one tell?


If the RealDrums button is underlined then the RealDrums has Real Charts. Real Charts are MIDI transcription.

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