The worst thing is that there are therapeutics / Prophylaxis that work but were blocked. Why block something if it's been used for decades safely ? is it too cheap ? is it political ? I have seen the MSM report so many things as truth that have now turned out conspiracy theories and conspiracy theories that have now become truth all in a short time. So who do you put your life on ? The Fauci guy is not a practicing doctor on the front line connecting directly with the human side, working daily with sick patients, watching them die in front of them like proper doctors that have to do all they can day in day out because of their love, compassion and the oath they took, these were the doctors that actually did something and found ways but were ridiculed. So no second or third opinion just ONE is allowed, ONE ONLY and controlled by the media, cancelled and deleted on social media. Sooooo many had to died unnecessarily because of spite, hate, politics, $$$$$$
It will all come out one day and hopefully soon, remember Nuremberg "Befehl ist Befehl (only following orders)" that ain't gonna work.
With the lock downs and tyranny in Australia there were over 1,200 suicides from March to August 2020 compared to just over 200 deaths from covid, will be worst this year and total covid deaths are just over 1000. The Army and Police that get deployed out there still get paid, public servants and politicians still get paid, but businesses are going broke. Ask yourself.
Eric Clapton and Van Morrison walk into a vaccine bar...
Clapton says, "Gimme that jab!" and is given shot #1, which immediately causes an adverse reaction. Morrison goes, "Oh!"
Clapton then slaps the bar and says, "Gimme that second jab!" and is given shot #2, which immediately causes an even worse adverse reaction. "Mother Mary and Joseph!" cries Morrison.
Clapton then inquires if there's a booster available for him.
When told there is not, he shouts, "Good! Because you'll have to break down my door to give that to me!" and makes a video.
finally rock and roll is rebelling against the man again..... wow. Never thought I'd live to see a return to the stick it to the man attitude of the 60's.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
The worst thing is that there are therapeutic/Prophylaxis that work but were blocked. Why block something if it's been used for decades safely? Is it too cheap? Is it political?
There’s a great power in knowing what you don’t know. Wisdom comes when we accept our ignorance and limitations is grasping what we are not trained in and also the ignorance and limitations of what others are trained in.
Training as a scientific researcher is different than training as a scientific technician. Niacin and Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) have been used safely for centuries, yet when apocryphal information suggested that mega doses were helpful in treating high cholesterol and warding off colds respectively no actual research was done and to the detriment of many who jumped on the bandwagon and started taking the stuff before real testing was done. Turns out that mega doses of Niacin does lower cholesterol, but it also is toxic to the liver in many people. Vitamin C wards off colds but acidifies the urine and causes kidney stones.
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
The Fauci guy is not a practicing doctor on the front line connecting directly with the human side, working daily with sick patients, watching them die in front of them like proper doctors that have to do all they can day in day out because of their love, compassion and the oath they took, these were the doctors that actually did something and found ways but were ridiculed. So no second or third opinion just ONE is allowed, ONE ONLY and controlled by the media, cancelled and deleted on social media. Sooooo many had to died unnecessarily because of spite, hate, politics, $$$$$$
The problem with this statement is that neither the author, nor the “front line” physicians can prove efficacy of treatments without a properly designed double blind study with controls. Period. That is what everyone in science advocates for, not just Dr. Fauci, not just the Media. Anyone who accepts a treatment that has not gone through testing to account for confounding variables, bias, and other phenomena has no interest in the truth. Show me one or more people that you know for a fact died unnecessarily because of spite, hate, politics, and/or greed…..trot their names out here and let’s examine the circumstances of their deaths and what could have been done to prevent their deaths and have a reasonable scientific discussion about what could or should have been done differently. Since there are sooooooo many out there, a small sample should be easy for anyone to come up with.
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
With the lock downs and tyranny in Australia there were over 1,200 suicides from March to August 2020
That is about 200 suicides a month. 2,866 people died from suicide in Australia in 2016. That is about 239 per month so its seems like the suicide rate has gone done. Was that your point? This doesn't show any corolation between the lockdown and the suicide rate if that was the goal.
Pipeline, if you quit playing music forever, would you suddenly be wiped of the music knowledge you have?
Whether Fauci is a practicing doctor or not, he still graduated from medical school and didn't suddenly become a medical moron when he quit practicing. He became a political pawn as the media continued to rile people up with their ping pong game. (Know what you call the guy who finished last in his class in medical school? "Doctor".)
None of this whole virus thing was the least bit political unless you chose to make it so. Like everything else, the media made it "us vs them".
You participate in the one sided baiting game when you present a statistic about suicide by choosing to stop researching the topic when it fits your agenda. Keith presented both sides, and his data beat your data.
How about this for an exercise in reductio ad absurdum?
22 veterans commit suicide every day in the USA. That is 8030 per year. We need to put a stop to that, so let's completely disband the military, because if there was no military, there could be no veterans, and that will save 8030 lives per year.
Or how about the fact that 29 people die every die in a DUI related car accident. That is 10,585 per year. So maybe the answer is to eliminate alcohol (Didn't they try that once?) and cars. That would save 10,585 lives every year.
THAT is how ridiculous people are when they present statistics to serve just one side of an issue.
Do you know that in Chicago alone, to date there have been 2671 people shot and wounded, and 547 shot and killed. (Source) That's over 3100 people involved in shootings. BUT, what those statistics don't say is that almost 100% of it is gang and drug related. Is the problem the implement used, the people who used it, or gangs and drugs? Add in a clueless mayor and a police department that has pretty much thrown their hands in the air and said "Have at it. We'll clean up the bodies later."
Originally Posted By: KeithS
Show me one or more people that you know for a fact died unnecessarily because of spite, hate, politics, and/or greed…..trot their names out here and let’s examine the circumstances of their deaths and what could have been done to prevent their deaths and have a reasonable scientific discussion about what could or should have been done differently.
Bingo. Perfectly stated, as Keith's posts usually are. Bluntly stated Pipeline, nobody gives the furry rodent's behind what you think about the vaccine or vaxing in general. It's called an opinion, and like opinions of every topic, they are best kept to yourself. Allow me to give you an example. I know a woman who, when we used to hang out, I witnessed drinking rather heavily (I don't drink), smoking (I don't smoke), cocaine use (I have never touched an illegal drug, not even weed, and I spent 18 months in Vietnam where it grew faster than dandelion), and indiscriminate sex with 2-3 guys per week (never with me though! Friend zone thing.) and EVERY TIME we would hang out she got around to lecturing me about how I need to find god (small G deliberate) and allow him into my life. Of the two of us, who lives a better life? I am going to have to go with the one who doesn't believe in god.
THAT is how I view the anti vaccine people.
1 sided statistics are meaningless and too often used to push an agenda.
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This doesn't show any corolation between the lockdown and the suicide rate if that was the goal. 
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