Pipeline, if you quit playing music forever, would you suddenly be wiped of the music knowledge you have?

Whether Fauci is a practicing doctor or not, he still graduated from medical school and didn't suddenly become a medical moron when he quit practicing. He became a political pawn as the media continued to rile people up with their ping pong game. (Know what you call the guy who finished last in his class in medical school? "Doctor".)

None of this whole virus thing was the least bit political unless you chose to make it so. Like everything else, the media made it "us vs them".

You participate in the one sided baiting game when you present a statistic about suicide by choosing to stop researching the topic when it fits your agenda. Keith presented both sides, and his data beat your data.

How about this for an exercise in reductio ad absurdum?

22 veterans commit suicide every day in the USA. That is 8030 per year. We need to put a stop to that, so let's completely disband the military, because if there was no military, there could be no veterans, and that will save 8030 lives per year.

Or how about the fact that 29 people die every die in a DUI related car accident. That is 10,585 per year. So maybe the answer is to eliminate alcohol (Didn't they try that once?) and cars. That would save 10,585 lives every year.

THAT is how ridiculous people are when they present statistics to serve just one side of an issue.

Do you know that in Chicago alone, to date there have been 2671 people shot and wounded, and 547 shot and killed. (Source) That's over 3100 people involved in shootings. BUT, what those statistics don't say is that almost 100% of it is gang and drug related. Is the problem the implement used, the people who used it, or gangs and drugs? Add in a clueless mayor and a police department that has pretty much thrown their hands in the air and said "Have at it. We'll clean up the bodies later."

Originally Posted By: KeithS
Show me one or more people that you know for a fact died unnecessarily because of spite, hate, politics, and/or greed…..trot their names out here and let’s examine the circumstances of their deaths and what could have been done to prevent their deaths and have a reasonable scientific discussion about what could or should have been done differently.


Bingo. Perfectly stated, as Keith's posts usually are. Bluntly stated Pipeline, nobody gives the furry rodent's behind what you think about the vaccine or vaxing in general. It's called an opinion, and like opinions of every topic, they are best kept to yourself. Allow me to give you an example. I know a woman who, when we used to hang out, I witnessed drinking rather heavily (I don't drink), smoking (I don't smoke), cocaine use (I have never touched an illegal drug, not even weed, and I spent 18 months in Vietnam where it grew faster than dandelion), and indiscriminate sex with 2-3 guys per week (never with me though! Friend zone thing.) and EVERY TIME we would hang out she got around to lecturing me about how I need to find god (small G deliberate) and allow him into my life. Of the two of us, who lives a better life? I am going to have to go with the one who doesn't believe in god.

THAT is how I view the anti vaccine people.

1 sided statistics are meaningless and too often used to push an agenda.

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