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Sorry, didn't mean to stir up anything. It's the first time I have ordered a USB Drive version, so was just curious is all. I am using 2022 ok from D/L's, so it's no real biggie...But I'd like to get over to the drive version asap, notwithstanding 
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Sorry, didn't mean to stir up anything. Don’t worry about it. You’ve been around long enough to know that we are always fussing at each other for something, 
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I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
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"I have one thing to say in defense of what PG Music is doing, and that is there is no way that they could efficiently have everything ready to go because they don’t have any idea about what an individual customer will order until they actually order."
A vital part of Inventory Control is forecasting/projecting future sales, based on past sales experience. Every company does this. They also anticipate market factors, such as supply chain issues, and plan ahead to make sure they have stock. You can buy blank hard drives anywhere.
I have been a proponent of PG's programs for many years, and I will continue to support them.
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Based on Dr. Gannon's response in +++ THIS +++ thread, stock should not be an issue. what with the shortages of supplies how is PG set on hard drives and usb sticks for the updates?
Earl,
Good question. We heard about the shortages a few months ago, so got our orders in early. So we're good with supply.
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My hard drive was ordered the first day possible and is on its way, according to the FedEx notice and tracking number I just received.
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Found my shipping notice in the spam folder
Your FastSpring order #BIAB211201-nnnn-nnnn shipment notification
with FEDEX Tracking #yyyyyyyyyy
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Got my email notice today. Hard drive is on its way! Not as fast as Amazon but not bad!
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"The supply chain is slower than molasses in January if it is moving at all!"
It's December 8th.
The quote is slower than molasses in January, not that the supply chain is slow in January. The implication is molasses flows very slowly in January because it is cold. the hard drives are kind a custom product, everybody orders different add ons etc. all that has to be put on the drive before shipping. Your product is available almost instantly for download and you get the drive about a week or so later which has been my experience.
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There are horrendous hold-ups with all sorts of electronics stuff, often because so many ICs are on long(!) deliveries.
"Long" is often "52 weeks", which actually means "we really have no idea when we might get any, but it's no time soon".
I've spent quite a bit of this year redesigning existing products to take different ICs that we can get hold of. We see a sufficient quantity of a part that could substitute, we buy it, I redesign the hardware and software to work with it. It's a bit scary as a mistake in the part choice could be pretty catastrophic.
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[the hard drives are kind a custom product, everybody orders different add ons etc. all that has to be put on the drive before shipping. This has changed this year. The addons are now download only and are no longer shipped.
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Just received my FastSpring shipping email. Next Tuesday for delivery...... Ordered about a week ago. No complaints here.
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I just received my shipping notification. It should be here mid next week.
I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
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[the hard drives are kind a custom product, everybody orders different add ons etc. all that has to be put on the drive before shipping. This has changed this year. The addons are now download only and are no longer shipped. Could you cite your source for this? The reason I ask is that the extra Paks were always on the hard drive if you buy the audiophile version (so you get all WAV files that are still on the large side for downloading.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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[the hard drives are kind a custom product, everybody orders different add ons etc. all that has to be put on the drive before shipping. This has changed this year. The addons are now download only and are no longer shipped. Could you cite your source for this? The reason I ask is that the extra Paks were always on the hard drive if you buy the audiophile version (so you get all WAV files that are still on the large side for downloading. My source is my order page where it said these addons were download only! Last year they were added to my order on CD after they were missing from the shipment. This year they changed it so those are download only. BUT, I do not have the audiophile version so your results may be different.
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OK, thanks. I will post the answer when I receive my drive and find out.
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Based on Dr. Gannon's response in +++ THIS +++ thread, stock should not be an issue. That's correct - physical stock is not an issue. What takes time is loading the hard drives. A single Audiophile drive takes about 4 hours to load, for example. There's also a chance that they want to get the very latest release installed before shipping and maybe a patch is imminent. That's only a hunch. I have no real knowledge. That can also be correct - the first couple days after release often gets a patch update or two, and if a major issue is found we definitely do not want to ship that out! This is not part of the delay this year, but it has happened before. I have one thing to say in defense of what PG Music is doing, and that is there is no way that they could efficiently have everything ready to go because they don’t have any idea about what an individual customer will order until they actually order. I can perceive at least part of what the problem is because I once screwed myself out of the bonus UNRELEASED Real tracks IN 24 BIT by accidentally omitting the 49 PAK from my initial order and splitting the order over two different days. As an Audiophile customer, I get my entire order on the HD. This year that includes the 49 PAK, the latest Xtra styles pak, and the latest XPRO pak. PG Music takes the time to make to make sure that the 60 unreleased bonus tracks in the 49 PAK are 24 bit on the audiophile drives. But they don’t know in advance that I’ll order the 49 PAK. With MY error 2 years ago, I got 12 bit bonus tracks and could only resolve the issue by shipping my audiophile HD back at my expense. I ultimately decided to put up with 60 12 bit tracks for a year. IMHO, if there were a way to have everything ready to go on ordering day, it would create more expense than it is worth.
I said that I had one thing to say in PG Music’s defense, but perhaps I have a second thing to say which is something that I say quite often. Over the years, what PG Music has given me in overall value, far exceeds what they have extracted from my bank account. I often think about what other software companies charge me every year for their yearly updates or subscriptions and realize just how genuinely dedicated PG Music is to helping musicians. They could charge so much more for their software, and they don’t so that it remains affordable to a greater client base. If they do things a certain way that is different from the average company, its usually to keep their costs from being driven up and passed on to their customers. PG Music has been such a customer oriented company during the time that I have been doing business with them, they would have to come to Mobile and burn my house down before I’d complain about their business practices. Thank you for the kind words Keith! Indeed we do everything we can to keep costs down so we can pass the savings on to you [the hard drives are kind a custom product, everybody orders different add ons etc. all that has to be put on the drive before shipping. This has changed this year. The addons are now download only and are no longer shipped. Could you cite your source for this? The reason I ask is that the extra Paks were always on the hard drive if you buy the audiophile version (so you get all WAV files that are still on the large side for downloading. My source is my order page where it said these addons were download only! Last year they were added to my order on CD after they were missing from the shipment. This year they changed it so those are download only. BUT, I do not have the audiophile version so your results may be different. Feel free to cite me as a source, not that I have that much credibility  Hard drives are shipped as the BIAB package only - any add-ons (Xtra Styles PAKs, 49-PAK, etc) must be downloaded and installed. This is true for all packages of BIAB. Just be pleased they aren't being shipped FROM the USA. We currently ship from a distribution centre in California. Flash drives are shipped via USPS and/or DHL, while hard drives are shipped by Fedex. Not at all... My drive is in the yellow freight box under the 3 stacked blue ones in the middle. I can totally tell... Almost, it's one to the right, in one of the yellow ones right above a red one.
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Excellent post, Simon! You summed up the situation perfectly.
People love PG and understand your work and your passion (quite) well. The proof is the number of people who have decided not to take advantage of the remission of the new tax. I join everyone in thanking you for this fantastic product.
I often try to remember my emotion and my wonder when a few years ago I finally managed to do my first song with "green" tracks. What happiness! And this magic always operates, and better and better, for example with these new surprise songs! Or this way of producing solos step by step!
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My drive just arrived, two days earlier than tracking said to expect it.
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Excellent post, Simon! You summed up the situation perfectly.
People love PG and understand your work and your passion (quite) well. The proof is the number of people who have decided not to take advantage of the remission of the new tax. I join everyone in thanking you for this fantastic product.
I often try to remember my emotion and my wonder when a few years ago I finally managed to do my first song with "green" tracks. What happiness! And this magic always operates, and better and better, for example with these new surprise songs! Or this way of producing solos step by step! Thank you very much for your kind words Marco, it's people like you who keep us going! My drive just arrived, two days earlier than tracking said to expect it. Good to hear!
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
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If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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