Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Hi all...

It's beginning to feel like I'm spending more time trying to get stuff to work than I am making music. Very frustrating to be sure.

Here's the latest head scratcher:

I've done a song in BIAB made up of 4 MIDI instruments and 1 audio instrument. (realdrums) Everything is sounding great.

My next move is to bring the song into my DAW - Reaper - with the PG plugin. It all goes in where it should.
However, I can't hear any of the MIDI tracks - only the audio track (realdrums) The meters are all moving in the MIDI tracks, I can record in the MIDI tracks but I just can't hear anything.
This problem is the same in Cakewalk and RealBand.
I can bring Sample Tank 4 into Reaper and Cakewalk and it records and sounds as it should, and I can hear and edit the MIDI notes I have created.

Any help would be so appreciated

/Bobby

Beginners Forum
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
The plugin can playback MIDI so that is why you see the meters move. However, by default the plugin MIDI soft synth is disabled so the sounds the plugin generates will not conflict with the sounds the DAW MIDI soft synth generates.

Go to File > Preferences > DAW Settings then scroll down. Enable the Embedded Synth.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Clipboard01 Plugin MIDI Soft Synth.jpg (66.42 KB, 207 downloads)

Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Hi Jim... thanks so much for your help...

It seems that my BIAB plugin doesn't have the option you show me in your picture... the "enable the Embedded Synth" option isn't showing in my version of the BIAB plugin.






Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
BIAB Screenshot.JPG (32.8 KB, 172 downloads)
Last edited by bobbyt9999; 12/28/21 04:33 PM.
Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,505
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,505
I believe Jim may be showing a recent beta which is still being debugged. Stay tuned.


Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Yeah... Jim's screenshot doesn't look like mine. Not sure what to do next?

frown

Beginners Forum
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 836
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 836
Hi bobbyt9999, what version of the plugin are you running? In the new versions it is written at the bottom left of the plugin. Alternatively you could go to File | About, and the version number will also display there.


Best,
Chantelle
Beginners Forum
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Bobby, I'm using version 4 that is part of the 2022 release. I suspect you may have version 3 introduced in 2021.


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,505
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,505
Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
Bobby, I'm using version 4 that is part of the 2022 release. I suspect you may have version 3 introduced in 2021.


That would actually be good news since BIAB-VST V3 (most updated version) works better with Reaper than the new BIAB-VST V4.


Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Beginners Forum
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Bobby, version 4 is part of the 2022 release and is not available separately.

I understand not wanting to upgrade since you have 2021.

Perhaps the 2022 program only upgrade will work for you. I asked Sales early exactly what is in the program only upgrade and was told it is Band-in-a-Box, RealBand and the Plugin. However, I would verify that before agreeing to purchase.

Traditionally the program only upgrade is available only during the release sale.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Clipboard01 Program Only Update.jpg (19.2 KB, 119 downloads)

Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271


Last edited by bobbyt9999; 12/30/21 01:48 PM.
Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
And so, I just bought the 2022 Program upgrade. And you were right, it was $49... $56CAD.

Again, thanks... I'll let you know how I make out with the new plugin. grin

/Bobby

Last edited by bobbyt9999; 12/31/21 01:48 AM.
Beginners Forum
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
I understand what your saying Bobby. However, in PG Music's defense, the plugin relies on Band-in-a-Box running as a background task to perform many of it's functions. RealBand also relies on Band-in-a-Box running as a background task to perform it's functions related to Band-in-a-Box features. That's why Band-in-a-Box, RealBand and the plugin are all released at the same time.


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,102
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,102
Originally Posted By: bobbyt9999
Opps... Sorry, Jim... I posted before I read your last post.

I'm going to check out the upgrade options. But I still don't think it's very fair to have to pay for the plugin.

Thanks for all your help regarding this matter. So much appreciated!!!

/Bobby


I'm not trying to start a war but other companies do the same thing. When Kontakt upgrades you must buy it to get the VST. Kontakt's free updates include VST's updates, just like PGM does with their free updates.


You know you're getting old when a recliner and a heating pad is your idea of a hot date!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Hi Mario... No fear, there's not gonna be any wars starting. I'm usually a pretty easy going old fella grin

If you noticed, I took down the rant that I posted because at the time I was understanding that I was going to need to pay $179USD in order to get the newer plugin. Thankfully Jim pointed out that I could just upgrade the program, plugin included, for $49USD - $56CAD. So, my bad for jumping the gun too quickly.

/Bobby

Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
And now... to get this thread back on topic...

It saddens me to say that the newer plugin hasn't cleared up my problem of not hearing my BIAB midi tracks in Reaper or Cakewalk. The sounds are there but just can't be heard. There's just one audio track in my song (drums) and that can be heard. Obviously I'm still not getting some setting right. I'll post another screen shot in a bit.

/Bobby

Beginners Forum
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,160
Bobby,

I hope you will discover some of the features introduced this year like motifs and micro-chords help make the program upgrade a worthy purchase. I'm glad to see the program upgrade includes RealBand and the plugin.

I'm looking forward to hearing your music!


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Hi Jim... yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff in the 2022 version that I'm going to love. To be honest, I really don't mind the $49 charge to upgrade at all. I'm sure that it's well worth it.

/Bobby

Beginners Forum
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,505
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,505
BIAB-VST 3.0 was working in Reaper, but has been broken with V4.0. We are waiting on a fix. I pointed that out earlier today in this tread. So you were warned.

Last edited by MusicStudent; 12/29/21 04:24 PM.

Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Beginners Forum
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Thanks for this, Dan.

I can now see that a fix to version 4 is needed and I take comfort in knowing that it's in the process of being fixed. Now, when I bring my BIAB song into Reaper or Cakewalk, I open the BIAB file in the plugin, and then generate the song within the plugin, it just abruptly shuts down either Reaper or Cakewalk.

And yes, you were very correct when you say that I you forewarned me that version 4 has a few bugs. I can be a very impulsive buyer sometimes. I see something and I just HAVE to have it without doing even any basic researching on it.

/Bobby

Last edited by bobbyt9999; 12/31/21 02:06 AM.
Beginners Forum
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,734
Product Manager
Offline
Product Manager
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,734
Bobby, is it after dragging the MIDI into Reaper that the audio didn't play? If so, that is normal. Reaper doesn't automatically assign an instrument or plugin to a track, so the MIDI has nothing to play through. You mentioned that adding Sampletank caused it to work, right? That's what you'd need to do for each track.

As for version 4.0.0 not working in Reaper, the developers are aware of the issues and are looking into them.


I work here
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
User Video: Band-in-a-Box® + ChatGPT = Impressed the BOSS!

Since AI is now readily available online as a resource for many things, we recently put together and shared a video where we demonstrated how to create a song using Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V; we've also shared a Bob Doyle Media video, Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band in A Box, showing how they utilize AI for their song projects. Now it's time to share Henry's video, Band-in-a-Box + ChatGPT = Impressed the BOSS!, where he demonstrates how to use ChatGPT and Band-in-a-Box to whip a song project together in only 3-4 hours.

Watch the video.

Visit Henry Clarke's YouTube Channel, Henry Clarke - Senior Musicians Unite, to find a large collection of tutorials showing the viewer how to achieve amazing results using Band-in-a-Box®!

Band-in-a-Box User Video Tutorials!

If you've reviewed our Support page, you've probably noticed the Videos page, which separates our Band-in-a-Box® tutorial videos by category: Overview, VST DAW Plugin, Setup, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and there's even an Archive category to go down memory lane... (You'll also find these videos on our YouTube Channel.)

It's always great to hear how other Band-in-a-Box® users create their songs, especially when they explain in detail what they're doing. Like Henry Clarke's YouTube Channel, Henry Clarke - Senior Musicians Unite! There you'll find his ALL Band-in-a-Box Tutorials playlist with over 50 videos! His top-three most watched videos include "How to Get Started with Band-in-a-Box," "How I use the Audio Chord Wizard in Band-in-a-Box," and "How to Create An Effective Solo Using Band-in-a-Box" - however he touches on many other topics and also demonstrates his own Band-in-a-Box® songs in the Band-in-a-Box Created Songs playlist!

You're guaranteed to find some helpful videos when you visit Henry Clarke's channel!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Italian for Windows is Here!

Ci siamo dati da fare e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 222 RealTracks, nuovi RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, due nuovi set di "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 e altro ancora!

Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 French for Windows is Here!


Band-in-a-Box® 2024 apporte plus de 50 fonctions nouvelles ainsi qu'une importante de contenus nouveaux à savoir : 222 RealTracks, des RealStyles nouveaux, des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes d'Instruments, des Prestations d'Artistes, des "Morceaux avec Choeurs", un Set 3 de Tracks Jouables, un Set 2 de RealDrums Jouables, deux nouveaux Sets de "RealDrums Stems", des Styles XPro PAK 6, des Xtra Styles PAK 17 et bien plus encore!

Tous Packages | Nouvelles Fonctionnalités

Video: Making a Song with Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V

Take your Band-in-a-Box® project to a whole new level when you incorporate ChatGPT and Synth V to add lyrics and vocals to your song!

We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!

Listen to the finished song, so you get a listen to the finished product: https://demos.pgmusic.com/misc/behindthefame.m4a

If you like it, watch the video. Either way, let's hear your comments!

Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function

One of the new features added with Band-in-Box® 2024 is the Tracks Window, which will look familiar if you've worked with other DAWs.

Henry Clarke explains why he loves the Re-generation function within the Tracks Window in their video Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function.

Watch video.

Learn even more about what the Tracks Window can do with our video Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Tracks Window.

User Video: Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®

The Bob Doyle Media YouTube channel is known for demonstrating how you can creatively incorporate AI into your projects - from your song projects to avatar building to face swapping, and more!

His latest video, Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box, he explains in detail how you can use the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box with ACE Studio. Follow along as he goes from "nothing" to "something" with his Band-in-a-Box MIDI Melodist track, using ACE Studio to turn it into a vocal track (or tracks, you'll see) by adding lyrics for those notes that will trigger some amazing AI vocals!

Watch: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box


Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics81,994
Posts740,172
Members38,654
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
paraschiv25, Helm73, JohnRiversaa, DaveHornet, EnzoJames
38,654 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 162
Rob Helms 119
musocity 103
DC Ron 99
rsdean 92
BIABman 81
Today's Birthdays
Saxfred
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5