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Hello,

I'd like to offer my own review of a computer program designed for those who might wish to automatically get hard-copy sheet music into the Band-In-A-Box or RealBand programs. In my opinion the product I'm about to describe works extremely well, is easy to install and use (I'm using MS-Windows 7, 64-bit), and because of it's incredible accuracy, rarely requires any user intervention. I felt it was well worth the selling price (mine was $49.99), as it consistently saves me many hours of typing hard-copy sheet music into Band-In-A-Box.

Disclaimer: There may be other computer software packages available that could perform the same function. This particular program was the one that I ended up buying and the one I currently use. As of February 2010 when I purchased the software, there did not appear to me to be ANY product available that could perform this same function (also note that I wanted a standalone program that was not bundled with some other software package). I have used the software for about four months (at about twice a month). I freely offer up this information because I thought that BIAB users might like to know more about it -- from a BIAB user's perspective (I also suggested that that the BIAB developers build in this function to scan hard-copy sheet music into BIAB). While it certainly wasn't my intent to write a commercial for this software title, I did intend to provide the reader with a thorough and unbiased evaluation and secondly, as of this writing I do not know about other programs or options that may be available that might perform the same function. So, as of this writing I had nothing else to compare it to.

The Software: I found a program called SmartScore by Musitek . I purchased the MIDI version of the program and the best price I've found for it was at amazon.com. As of the date of my post it was available for $42.42 at Amazon.com.

What it's used for: Using any scanner and the SmartScore program, you simply scan your hard-copy score (note also that it allows for scanning an unlimited number of pages into a project). You then save your work (which the program can be set to do automatically) to a MIDI, XML or NIF file. You can then load BIAB or RB and use the MIDI file.

Review: Here's a short list of some of the features that I've found particularly useful as a BIAB / RB user. There are likely more features that each of you may like, but I only use it with the BIAB software.

1. The program is incredibly fast and it is very accurate. It works with most scanner brands and models.

2. It includes a built-in MIDI notation editor. If SmartScan finds something that it thinks could potentially be interpreted differently, it highlights these places and (using a split-screen of the original scan and the resulting MIDI), allows you to quickly identify the information in question (in my own use I found that it rarely interrupts processing with user questions -- it's normally quite correct in it's assessment without any user intervention).

3. It includes a built-in MIDI player to hear your score immediately. It also has a Jukebox feature to play multiple songs automatically. It provides support for your VST plug-ins.

4. It can scan a very large number of staves per score (I myself that I find lots of director-type scores), and it can optionally break each of these out into single-instrument MIDI's. Theoretically, if I didn't want to work with the MIDI file in BIAB, I could use SmartScore to quickly print up separate sheets for each of my band members.

5. It has the ability to combine multiple parts into a single conductor's score (a nice feature).

6. It has several special features just for guitar players (too many to list).

7. It has a Karaoke feature (the kids enjoy this -- since they can find free sheet music online for virtually any tune they've ever heard on the radio and then just download the sheet and fire up SmartScore )! This program also allows you to import files directly without printing the score and then scanning it back in. Thus, it will convert different file types to MIDI.

8. Automatically reformat your scores according to your own set of "standards" or set up special templates to use (comes with some too).

9. Works with Finale software.

10. It can save the result in MIDI, WAV or XML file formats. It can import TIF, TIFF, MIDI, XML, BMP, PDF and NIF) files.

I hope this helps someone. It's worked quite well for me and spending the rest of your life typing is a terrible thing to waste!

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Any other comments reviews? Looks like a good option for my off the wall stuff.

Does it handle pages with the words under the staves, say a piano staff with 3 verses underneath?

That would be way cool.


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John, I have to say that I haven't really payed that much attention to what the program does with any text (including non-lyric) found in the score but I'd agree that this would be pretty cool. I do not know yet, but I intend to find out. I'll update here as I find more information on this.

Thanks for the post!


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So I wonder if you could use Finale to do a simlar thing? It scans music, you can edit it after to get it right and then save it as a midi file to enter it into Biab. Has anyone heard of that?

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So I wonder if you could use Finale to do a simlar thing? It scans music, you can edit it after to get it right and then save it as a midi file to enter it into Biab. Has anyone heard of that?




Yes, it can be done, I used to do that with Finale and now do it with Sibelius instead.

Pay attention to the BPM setting and set BB to the same so things line up.


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smart score is already a part of finale so no need to buy it if you already have finale. For those interested in this type of software you should check out photoscore, its much more accurate than smartscore &has a lot more options

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smart score is already a part of finale so no need to buy it if you already have finale. For those interested in this type of software you should check out photoscore, its much more accurate than smartscore &has a lot more options




Thanks for the response comparison.

About what you're saying ... True enough. However, the full version of Finale is a $600 dollar program and I couldn't afford that. I did already have a watered-down version of the Finale program that was bundled with some other software I bought from Hal Leonard. This version seemed to work okay but it didn't include any music-scanning ability.

Also, Photoscore 6 is a $500 dollar program unless you buy the MIDI Lite Photoscore for $50 bucks. I did buy Photoscore Lite before I ended up switching to SmartScore -- I sent Photoscore back. I found the two programs to be similar in features but personally I ended up taking SmartScore over Photoscore because one, I had trouble with Photoscore tech support and two, SmartScore was easier to set up and use.

The truth be told, I didn't see any difference at all in accuracy -- they both claim 99% percent accuracy (the separate SmartScore software -- not the Finale-bundled-integrated one). And even at 99% percent that means one note out of 100 is going to be wrong (and even that is going to depend a great deal on your scanning hardware and software drivers. I guess I can live with 1 out of 100 for what the program does for me and my ears can usually tell me which one's out of wack anyhow.

To each his own.


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Thanks for the post! I was just thinking I needed something like this. I'm just getting started w/BIAB and I want to make backing music for my singing. I have tried typing in a few songs and it is a frustrating experience. And thanks for the tip on the best place to buy!

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Since I have a big stack of fake books, I would love to have a decent scan function. I have had good scanners but sure didn't like Photoscore professional with Sibelius. There were so many errors that I found it was actually faster to just enter everything manually, which is what I've been doing. If you don't have a keyboard, you can use your computer qwerty keyboard, tap in the note rhythms, and then move the notes with the mouse to their correct staff positions. Actually, I should use this feature more than I do. FWIW

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This is a great subject! I have a version of smartscore midi edition...an older one ...seems like they've come a long way since 2002 with their accuracy.The old one was pretty good but required a lot of editing to get sheet music to sound musical. I would buy the new one but after I promised myself I will work diligently on my sight reading I just cant do it...very tempting though:)


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If you can read music, smartscore is a great program for making midi files out of sheet music with. The key is how well you can "scan" the sheet music and have SS interpret it.

You can set codas, repeats etc . . . if you know how to read the music score.

I used to use SS and it worked great for sheet music w/o chords typed in them.

The cleaner the scan, the cleaner your midi will be. You can also adjust notes etc . . . in its editing features.

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