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Hallo!
Ich habe gerade einige BIAB-Songs - versehen mit "nur Pausen, außer Drum, Bass, Gitarre (bdg)" - mit der Funktion WAV-Button - Direct Rendern mit Dxi (benutze Forte) in eine WAV-Datei umgewandelt. Ich wollte eine Playback-CD für Live-Auftritte herstellen. Als ich vor dem Brennen die Aufnahmen in einem anderen Brennprogramm kontrollierte, stellte ich fest, dass auf den Aufnahmen mit RD keine Drums zu hören sind. Beim Direct Rendering kommt auch vor dem Vorgang keine Auswahlliste, um an den verwendeten Sounds irgendwelche Einstellungen treffen zu können (ich habe also nichts gemacht). Midi-Drums sind jedoch auf den Aufnahmen vorhanden. Kann es sein, dass auf den in BIAB direkt abgespielten Song-Arrangements und den Arrangements der gleichen aber gerenderten Songs ohne mein Zutun solche Differenzen entstehen? Ich bitte um Rat?
Viele Grüße Adi!
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Hallo,
ist bei mir auch so. Dxi ist ein Software-Sythesizer, der daher nur Midi-Spuren verarbeiten kann. Die Real-Drums sind aber WAV-Dateien und werden somit nicht gerendert.
Der Song mit Realdrums kann im gleichen Dialog unter "in anderes Audioformat speichern" als Wave-Datei gespeichert werden und, falls gewünchscht, danach noch in z.B. eine mp3-Datei komprimiert werden.
Viele Grüße,
Albrecht
Grüße,
Albrecht
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Hallo!
Vielen Dank, da muss man mal erst draufkommen. Das heisst also, Direct Rendern DXi ist bei Verwendung von Real-Drums nicht verwendbar. Man muss dann immer die Alternative - habe noch nicht in Biab nachgesehen - "in anderes Audioformat speichern" benützen, was ja wohl häufig vorkommen dürfte.
Zusatz nach Anwendung: Leider hat es nicht funktioniert. Die Aufnahmen bleiben ohne Schlagzeug! Vorgangsablauf: Song öffnen - WAV-Button drücken - in anderes Audioformat speichern - Maske "Bitte wählen Sie ein Audio-Format für die Ausgabe erscheint - unter Name: CD-Qualität einstellen - OK - Song wird gerendert, aber im Ergebnis ohne Drums! (Im Ordner finde ich 2 Dateien, nämlich WAV und Compressed Wave, jeweils ohne) Warum?
Grüße! Adi
Last edited by Protector24; 07/18/08 10:03 AM.
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Hallo!
Wenn BIAB eine gleichnamige Wave-Datei in dem Ordner findet, in dem eine neue gerenderte erstellt werden soll, nimmt das Programm scheinbar an, daß nicht nochmal neu gerendert werden soll und komprimiert nur neu - Ergebnis: man hat wieder die vorherige Version. Das hatte ich auch schon öfter, wenn ich vergessen hatte, die alten Dateien zu löschen (od. zu verschieben). Das betrifft scheinbar nur die unkomprimierten gerenderten Dateien - also am besten im Speicherordner (meistens dort, wo auch die *.sgu-Datei liegt) alle alten Versionen vernichten, umbenennen o.ä.
Man merkt es schon, wenn das Rendern verdächtig schnell geht (wenn z.B. sofort das Auswahlfenster für die Komprimierung erscheint) - dann war´s mal wieder nix.
Ich gehe mittlerweile dazu über, die gerenderten Dateien gleich woanders zu speichern, aber hin und wieder passiert mir soetwas trotzdem (Tempo verändert und schnell nochmal - PUSTEKUCHEN)
8-)
Ich hoffe, es klappt nun.
Grüße, Albrecht
Grüße,
Albrecht
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Hallo!
Vielen Dank für die Tipps, So geht es also, es funktioniert. Es gibt jedoch ein Aber:
Ich habe den (Hör-)Eindruck, dass die WAV-Dateien irgendwie komprimiert sind, obwohl ich CD-Qualität anwähle. Bei der Abmischung stellte ich fest, dass ältere gerenderte WAV-Dateien besser klingen, was auch an der Audio-Frequenz-Darstellung erkennbar ist. Die Datei hat deutlich mehr Spitzen. Früher - vor 2008 oder 2008.5 habe ich normal mit Direct Rendern mit DXi gearbeitet und bessere Ergebnis erzielt. Ich bin letztlich nicht zufrieden, das kann nicht der Weisheit letzter Schluss gewesen sein.
Wer kann mir Tipps geben, für die beste Soundqualität beim Rendern von Songs mit Realdrum-Sounds? Wohl keine Seltenheit oder?
Viele Grüße
Adi
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