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Originally Posted by Rustyspoon#
Lee.
You made a particular vote couple of weeks ago and I asked to back it up with constructive comments, which never materialized.
That is what I am talking about.
I felt too p*** off about it all at the time so decided to calm down and give it a while for bug fixes before making comment. I thought I'd said something like that in that thread, maybe I didn't? I haven't checked.

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If you have hard time of memorizing F7 and/or a large graphical toggle button.... I have no comment.
That's just you missing the point and thinking your way is better than mine.

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P.S. "majority of users" - Majority of users are not on this forum.
Seems you didn't read that sentence properly.

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I am very certain majority of users would pick new non modal MTP Library hands down instead of 9 modal, pickers that have all kinds of issues, discrepancies and bugs. Especially new users. We care about those a little, right?
Not once have I disagreed with that.
I feel like you are trying to single me out simply because I don't agree with your workflow. I respect yours, you should respect mine.

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Lee,
you voiced your personal frustrations by making a case that a few relatively small items that got changed not to your liking or lack of enthusiasm to adopting makes somehow current iteration of the program so bad that it's worth of reverting. That is exactly how I would read your comments if I came to this forum today for the first time.

Overall new MTP is a huge success. Does it need some more work? - sure, fair enough. Bugs reported and fixed - absolutely. But "needs massive improvement" - I strongly disagree.

P.S. My way is not "better" than your way, but I don't believe that memorizing a single key shortcut and / or a nice button on top right is something that should interfere with adoption to one of the most important tools in BIAB. Really. Give it a try, perhaps you will change your mind.

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Originally Posted by Rustyspoon#
P.S. My way is not "better" than your way, but I don't believe that memorizing a single key shortcut and / or a nice button on top right is something that should interfere with adoption to one of the most important tools in BIAB. Really. Give it a try, perhaps you will change your mind.

Trust me, I won't. It's a single shortcut for one function for one piece of software.
I use, Cubase, Studio One, FL Studio (not often), Dorico, Guitar Pro, BIAB, Spectralayers, Soundslice, Transcribe, Neck Diagrams. and more, very often, almost daily with multiple windows open at a time. Add to that, the Affinity apps, Excel on and on. I have a lot to remember and some of these, including BIAB have no option to customise shortcuts. Habit takes over and you end up frustrated by using wrong shortcuts accidently.

When I'm working, despite using mostly shortcuts wherever I can, when it makes sense, the mouse is pretty much in my hand the whole time. It's easy to remember and use. A simple click to bring up a window that I need to work on. "Always on top" is an absolute PITA. It's dead easy to make an option to disable and affects nobody negatively. Same with all the other things that are now buried, which wasn't before.

I shouldn't have to explain myself. I'm not asking to make anyone else's life harder to make mine easier. If we all worked the same way then no software we need any setup options or preferences. IMO forcing unnecessary clicks and extra menus is madness when it's done for no good reason. It just makes the workflow so much more frustrating.

If we want to exchange opinions then I can say exactly the same about you. You obviously have no problem with multiple unnecessary clicks, keypresses and stacks of nested menus. Maybe you have a lot of time on your hands. Try it my way, you might change your mind smile

Honestly, I don't see the point of arguing or telling each other they are doing it all wrong. I've admitted countless times I'm impatient. Keeping things simple and all easily accessible shouldn't hinder anybody's workflow, so why not just design things to work easier. If you can give me a reason for doing away with countless unnecessary menus, clicks and keypresses - other than because it looks prettier, then I might find reason to agree with you.

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One thing that I don't like are 7-9 separate jailed/modal pickers accessed individually from unintuitive places. Each looks different, act different and each having their own bugs, limitations and issues.

No, of course you don't have to explain anything to anyone.

"It's dead easy to make an option to disable and affects nobody negatively." Why not make a post in wishlist? While many wishes fall through, good number get done.

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One thing that I don't like are 7-9 separate jailed/modal pickers accessed individually from unintuitive places. Each looks different, act different and each having their own bugs, limitations and issues.
That we agree on smile

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"It's dead easy to make an option to disable and affects nobody negatively." Why not make a post in wishlist? While many wishes fall through, good number get done.

I will at some point, I just haven't had enough time to work properly with the new version. Some of my gripes are quite minor, more just irritating, and I talk out of frustration rather than them being serious workflow problems.

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"Some of my gripes are quite minor, more just irritating, and I talk out of frustration rather than them being serious workflow problems."

You wanna hear mine? smile

Lee,
Thank you for clarifying!

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I've just discovered that there is no default volume control for the demo songs in the style browser. Now it is always 2. If I browse ten styles, I only have to change volume from 2 to 4 or 5... 10 times, because this setting is not remembered, and I cannot change the default value. And I even saw the suggestion to change the volume of BiaB application in Windows. Cool! (but only for demos, because when I hear the song I am working on, the volume is some 15dB higher).

I am sure that either the demo volumes were better balanced to the normal operation of BiaB or perhaps setting the value to 4 or 5 ONCE, it was remembered later. In other words, browsing styles worked for me in older versions, now it is broken. Same old story.

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