|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3
Newbie
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3 |
Hello,
I have BIAB 2009 and am trying to change the time signature in a song. The verse of the song is in 3/4 and it changes to 4/4 at the chorus. I tried Edit/Set Time Signature, but the time signature will not change to 4/4 and the measures remain in 3/4. I also tried Edit/Settings for Current Bar, and attempted to set 4 beats and change my style from the 3/4 to 4/4 style that I want. This does not work either. I can change to 2/4 time, but not to 4/4. Any ideas as to why this might not be working properly and what I need to do to correct it (hopefully, without having to "start over")?
Thanks,
Kelly
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,161
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 3,161 |
You need to use F5 and change the number of beats to 4 at the Chorus and then back to 4 at the end. You will find that most 4/4 styles will work well for 3/4 bars and there may be no need to change to a 3/4 style. Try this and see.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3
Newbie
|
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3 |
Now that's an interesting idea, except my problem is needing 3/4 time from the start of the song to the chorus. Things work fine, changing from 4/4 to 3/4, just not from 3/4 to 4/4.
I did get things to work by setting an initial 4/4 style and changing the number of beats in bar 1 to 3. I then changed to a 3/4 time style in bar 2, so I have the proper "feel" in the playback. Doing this let's me switch back to to 4/4 style at the chorus. The only problem is I do have to re-enter the melody for the verse, as making these changes "bumped" the pickup beat in measure 4 of my introduction to beat 1 of measure 5.
Thanks for the idea, LynB.
HOWEVER, this is an absurd way to have to approach the problem. BIAB Moderators - Pass along to the developers that this problem should be resolved. Switching time signatures should NEVER be a problem, and a user shouldn't have to go to such convoluted lengths to do such a simple task.
Cheers,
Kelly
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,376
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,376 |
It's been my experience that you cannot change a 3/4 song to a 4/4 section.
My work around is:
1) Assign the 4/4 style as the style the song will be played on
2) On BiaB cell#1, press F5 and change it to the 3/4 style.
Then when you get to the part that needs to be in 4/4, change it back.
Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton  Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 12,672 |
BIAB will NOT change to 4/4 if it starts with a 3/4 style. You must start with a 4/4 style, and then you can change to 3/4 and back to 4/4 within the song. I think BIAB is able to take away beats, but not to add beats, so if you start with 3/4, it can't add the extra beat to play 4/4.
I've had problems before with Bob Norton's method, in that depending on when you stop the song, it doesn't reset to the 4/4 when you try to play through again. What I usually do is set the style to 4/4, make the 1st bar silent (or just a drum intro), and then start 3/4 on bar 2. So effectively, my song starts on bar 2 with 3/4, rather than bar 1.
I would say just experiment with it and use what works for you.
You should go to the wish list and ask that this be changed, as you shouldn't need to do thik kind of workaround. However, it's been this way a long, long time.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2025/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 5,261 |
Quote:
... it's been this way a long, long time.
Yup, and it's been on the wishlist for a loong time by now, too. Any kind of the much cited clumsy workaround botches any reasonable count-in. There is a design flaw inside of the box ...
Martin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Quote:
It's been my experience that you cannot change a 3/4 song to a 4/4 section.
My work around is:
1) Assign the 4/4 style as the style the song will be played on
2) On BiaB cell#1, press F5 and change it to the 3/4 style.
Then when you get to the part that needs to be in 4/4, change it back.
Notes
That's what you have to do, alright.
--Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.
Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,308
Posts777,564
Members39,615
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean